Condor Watch Talk
Golden eats, raven waits
#meadowlark
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Sorry for long delay in addressing issue. Does appear to be a display glitch. eg, here, all showing as tag 43, tho underlying bios are ok
588 dining alone
name that flycatcher?
cooperative is unusual for teenagers. they must be up to something
Tough angle -- but it turns out it is a 26 dot https://goo.gl/3tY1zU
Right on the $$ with the wild boar call. I pulled up a later photo: https://goo.gl/Y8f4s6
my guess is insect. Other guesses?
you got it!
Yes! great!!
I see what you see -- looks like a dog peeing on the carcass (ha), but that's actually two carcasses.
Hmm, left looks like 25 underline, and middle 43 underline (would be polite if they'd turn a bit!). Here's a bit later https://goo.gl/4Y5bZI
I was just leaving in fact!
Would definitely call that K-rat or Dipodomys. They have large eyes, which might make them look bigger than they are. Nice one!
We don't. Hmm, if I'm looking at the right thing, think it might be part of the carcass or a rabbit carcass. It's in other photos
Nice! Might need to make a slide show of "incoming!" birds
Maybe just texting out "chaos, panic, disorder....my work here is done!"
I had to google that!
I'd say it's an eagle that has gotten bloodied and unkempt while working on the carcass
just a full and relaxed one!
beautiful
Whoa, no idea about this tag. Will investigate!
the gloved one
now if only we could get them to clean the dust off the lens before they strike a pose...
You're right! Helpful to remember that red tags have white numbers and orange tags have black numbers.
Oh goodness. Didn't realize there was another. Same painful bloat. Looks just as popular with the diners as the OJH (original jello horse)
Indeed -- nice light. We put a collection of new photos on facebook last night https://goo.gl/MCmGP0. This one is worthy too.
yes
love it!
true. a first for me. good catch
By process of elimination (yr, site) it should be 375, 75 3dot. And indeed:https://goo.gl/i6bt8I
yes!
306--she died of electrocution. Some may be curious so here's info on why large birds like condors can be electrocuted https://goo.gl/H3mVzW
It sure does look like that but it must 3dots under a double digit number at an oblique angle
sure looks that way!
only ~50, so this is 2/3 of southern flock. Ultimate hope is they will feed across the landscape and all carcasses will be lead free!
Yes, remarkable gathering. Only about 150 in CA currently for both Ctrl and SoCal combined. This is SoCal, where in 2011 there were...
Great find! Will put on CW Facebook to get the week off to a good start
most cooperative condor ever!
Indeed
Fun fact: this guy is nicknamed Igor and was the last bird captured from the wild. Here's a brief bio: https://goo.gl/QMKJt4
Indeed!
That awkward moment when an argument breaks out at the Sunday dinner table.
Gosh look they all have mouthfuls of fur -- taking full advantage of the core competency of the horsie
Good eye. I vote K-rat
too funny wreness!
spectacular
walking to the weigh-in
#human striding away at dusk
Great photo. Much going on in it includingBlue11's blue neck, Red90 looking cute, and synchronized poses by Bl25 and 43 underline
incoming!
Now that's a feast
agree
Click the x on the upper right -- to the right of the circle that says "Choose". Or use shift backspace.
too many. clearly they had a camera setup differently on this date. have tried to get the excess removed -- will try again
gorgeous
Same bio said their other interest in scale is "they just like to mess with things"
At workshop past 2 days with roomful of condor biologists. Pinnacles bio said the scale best place to scrape carcass goo off your head
21 chicks for ole 21: https://goo.gl/DgTCL0
I'm with wreness. Probably not a bird, as they are very unusual at this predawn hour
This image has only 2 carcasses in it.
Only on Condor Watch do you find these morbid and stellar conversations. Had to post it https://goo.gl/NDbHN8
I'm going to file this away in my second career options folder. Condor Brand Nail Polish.
I agree wreness. Hard to make out what is going on with the blurry action in the darkness, but this is 2 min later: https://goo.gl/B10FX5
So special that poor tuvu, who doesn't even have a tag, is taking off
One of my all time favorite shots. Thanks inaspin. https://goo.gl/YDkyRL
Agree with everything you said wreness
I nominate this bird for the cooperative condor category
Happy Valentines Day!
Love it. FB material for sure
nice complement to the 28 condors.
Wow! It's a party. Raven here isn't sure if he's invited
Looks like sunlight glistening off the golden sheen of the feathers on the back of the head and neck.
Nice! added to our FB page: https://goo.gl/yARLHO
Agree it looks red. Helpful to remember that red tags have white #s, orange have black, http://blog.condorwatch.org/gallery-of-wing-tags/
Raven photobomb
out of the mist
And to all a good night!
Yes! How can this not have made #dailyzoo yet? It's one of our most arresting images
This is 417 on her release day! Hatched at SD Wild AnimalPark & spent 3.5 months acclimating in an enclosure at Pinnacles NP before release
Yes, excellent! This photo and your comment are perfect. Will post on FB
No, not critical. There are no tags with both digits underlined that indicate a different bird.
Love the foot!
Was so absorbed by the sinister coyote in the foreground that I missed his sleeping friend in the background
Colorful bunch and two floofs
Ha. Might have to use this one for a Thanksgiving Day post, as this is how many of us here in the US are going to feel Thursday afternoon
coyote pulling hard enough to tilt the earth
Look at this huge group.
OK-sorted out. Dots are actually "FW". It's a chick tag. Bird is 482 (not 483 due to order mixup). Sadly 482 has been missing almost a yr
Wow -- didn't even notice the earhole because I was so distracted by the carcass shrapnel on that one.
Another good one! Another one to steal for Facebook https://goo.gl/8vqsv9
Awesome. Humbler, but he always had a hint of that swagger
Check out what time they do the carcass drops!
Tho nothng can bring back the hr/Of splendor in the grass, of glry in the flwr/We will grieve not, rather find/Strngth in what remains behnd
Thanks for the idea of looking at photos near the time of these others. U guys are great! Found a cool action sequence https://goo.gl/ttzKN3
Survived by offspring #328, #526, #683, &this yr’s fledgling #778, who's been soaring above his birth territory often near his dad (old #21)
With regret I report we lost another fine bird this week: https://goo.gl/MHDAJM Anyone able to find a better photo of this grande dame?
wonderful
Yes, 70! Here's an image from moments earlier: https://goo.gl/q8cW6v
Well, yah -- what do you think the walking shrub to the right is fleeing from?
Think the one in back is our old friend 47 underline (547). There's a glare on the 4. But this will get fixed so no worries.
Now that is a beautiful condor!
Had to highlight 😦: https://goo.gl/ZiNjhx
Had to highlight: https://goo.gl/ZiNjhx
Looks like we need to update our records. Thanks for pointing that out!
Perfect illustration for today's Facebook post: https://goo.gl/VpA8U3
Good deduction! 231 was hatched in 2000 and 294 in 2003, so 231 was fully mature in 2007 and 294 was still a teenager.
Indeed! https://goo.gl/bPDbb0
I see your point! But terribly blurry photo. Only 2007 birds with left tags that are Black2dots and look a bit like this are 31 and 94.
likely Say's phoebe
We covered these complex topics in advanced mammalogy. With such subtle dimorphism, it's almost impossible for the novice to discern 😃
There are data quality reasons for not having a go-back option, but I can relate to the arghh -- have done this too. It will be corrected
Yes. They are wild boar/feral pig hybrids (all the same species -- Sus scrofa). And that is a male.
Not a fair comparison due to distance, but love the size diff: http://goo.gl/ouQvcK Maybe someone else can find a better comparison shot
This CW photo was highlighted in the Condor Cave FB page (and ours too) today. https://goo.gl/Qj245R https://goo.gl/3c0KfG
Wow! Good eyes!!
This beautiful gal successfully reared a chick with another female. Check our FB page and also this sweet timelapse: https://goo.gl/WURAKs
watcha got there raven?
We're all about neologisms over here at condor watch 😃
For more on floof muffining, see our most recent blog post: http://goo.gl/Cttt1S
Gus, quick, wings up, this one's for the tutorial!
We have a guest blog post on floof muffins and other condor quirks coming out this weekend. Stay tuned!
you're welcome!
Thanks wreness! Now updated with better/direct link to video
Need some cuteness in your day? Check out this video of fuzzy chick 744 learning to sun him/herself like a big bird. https://goo.gl/OOfyht
If I ever visit this site, the first thing I'm gonna do is lie down and rest my head on that scale.
Wow wreness- think we were writing at the exact same time! Recent birds are more likely to only have 1. I'll ask the field sites why.
Many condors have tags on both wings (eg: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW00046tn). Is that what you mean?
Almost certainly Kangaroo rat or K-rat. Dipodomys sp.These are very cool arid land rodents. They can produce metabolic water from their food
We can nominate for #DailyZoo. It's stunning! But we just got promo-ed there yesterday so we probably won't get any DZ love for awhile
Also, Red56 is a SoCal flock bird so that input will throw an error because this is a Central CA photo
Good catch on the upsidedown tag. Probably is Red90 but don't think we can see clearly enough to say for sure.
Appears that's white 51. Here is the next photo in sequence: https://goo.gl/8Gi6k6. Thanks! We'll get the correct ID from these other photos
I think those are actually white38 and white11. tough angles
Somebody is getting a talking to
Ooh, I love this. Posted our new theme song here: https://goo.gl/J6Xjdd
Fortunately it's not that. It's the antenna for a tracking devise. Most birds have a radio or gps tag for monitoring purposes
Hmmm, I wonder if it could be just 1 or 2 birds that do this. 626, I'm watching you!
Agree it looks odd but they will do this when resting after eating. The volunteers dubbed them floof muffins. May need a blogpost on FMs!
2 condors pretending to be carcasses (or floof muffins)
Yes, they're surprisingly light compared to the hefty condors (and yes, this pose makes your head look small, buddy)
thank you!
You can almost hear the cloud of flies buzzing
Love it. It's on FB: https://goo.gl/HPWRLx
Yes, 377. She died young, in 6/08, and her death was attributed to a wildfire. She was roosting at night in proximity to the fire.
Tantrum or dance, either way he's managed to knock the scale over!
Absolutely stunning! #dailyzoo
That's what friends are for.
G Haldursson, if we could "like" comments on CW, we would like yours (and many others)!
That's a conundrum! I think it must be white28, shown here 1 min later: https://goo.gl/pIiVfc. She had L tag and GPS. Died in 2013 of lead
Gorgeous. Posted to FB: https://goo.gl/WhKoVZ
Nice! Facebooked this one.
strangely soothing image
I'm pretty sure that's not what most people would say when they saw this image. But we are not most people here on CW are we?
Love it! Letter salesman was Lefty, but this is Righty (better for # sales to connect with buyer's left hemisphere??) https://goo.gl/KIQh4m
And just how do they pay the pizza guy? Check it out here: https://goo.gl/KIQh4m
That category does seem to have broad applicability though!
This guy got DailyZooed today: http://daily.zooniverse.org/
Let's ask the ravens to test out the postulate that this eagle is reachless
Looks like a zeppelin to me too. 317 looks concerned
Ha!
I agree. Good detective work! This will get sorted out in data processing using adjacent photos. eg: https://goo.gl/HWyJBC
Definitely must be a trampoline there. Why are we just finding this out now?!
😄
I see that, but I think it might be wood. Here's another view: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0004277. What do you think?
It does look v bear like, but I checked other photos & since the black blob was motionless for at least 2 hours I'm going with calf carcass
This is a golden eagle. Pls see the Field Guide for help identifying the animals you will see here http://www.condorwatch.org/#/field-guide
I think it is a raven but hard to tell for sure. You don't need to mark birds in trees tho.
Made me smile at the end of a long day. That alone makes it CW Facebook material. Long live condor humor!
I so agree!
Facebooked this one, with kudos to canmore1919. Love the hanging feet
thanks
And trust me, nothing is harder to reach with your beak than the top of your own head
that bloated feeling
Raven on far left: "Uh, I'm pretty sure that's not a good landing spot dude"
Observant
Check out 190 The Redwood Queen w/ her chick: https://goo.gl/1Z8WjZ (using my favorite parenting strategy for the 2nd 1/2 of the clip)
Great size comparison!
Yes, 2 birds died in water tanks in 9/13 -- unfortunate and apparently freak incidents. http://goo.gl/3Zmhly
From wikipedia: Condors are so large they can be mistaken for a small distant plane, which possibly occurs more often than...4 another bird
No, its a furry tail, which makes it 100% different than an EW rat tail. More like a gerbil. I swear, they're really cute
No, I don't want to talk about it
Interesting tuft. My sense is that it's just really windy and blowing from behind. S/he seems alert to potential trouble afoot downwind
Everything about this photo and this comment is so quintessentially CondorWatch. https://goo.gl/1my0yL
you have to watch out for these guys, they're little tyrants 😃
Think you're right that it's our go-to bird, Say's phoebe, based on better photo captured after it's settled on scale http://goo.gl/SAAbFf
Interesting. Looked at other shots and this coyote is holding its L leg up, and so posture may make belly protrude. Leg looks badly injured!
such a colorful face
Edna reminds Jill she wouldn't need that big ole running start if she hadn't choked down the whole liver herself
Cool. Definitely a striped skunk - Mephitis mephitis. Remember opossums have bare rat-like tails and bears are bigger/longer-legged/tailess
Here's an example of a v. faded blue tag w/ black numbers http://goo.gl/2ay3KL (74 ctr back). It stymied CWers (&me) because it looks white
Learning process. Lt blue w/blk faded & could be confused with white, so switcheroo to royal blue w/wh combo.
Think it is a raven & v. small carcass(compare: http://goo.gl/5UxfNt). Waddya think? Best illusion is mirror image spirit raven on carcass
Great shot. Posted to FB, credited to you 😃
Nice! I posted to FB, credited to you 😃
Oh you're right. Good eye!!
& for the condor to his left, wing up, dontcha just hate it when you're last bird to the roost & only the lowest branch is available?
I see that. I'll ask what it is.
no doubt that would give 534 great pleasure
See below. You're not the first to see it as dotted
May need to re-evaluate other IDs& I shoulda looked at this one.My fault. Birder consulted on original thot size was deceptive, as it can be
love this!
These are condors. See Field Guide for help identifying http://www.condorwatch.org/#/field-guide Note distinctive beak among other traits
wow, so similar to this one: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0004521. It's the condor sunset wingstretch. preliftoff
Well this one definitely has kestrel face markings.
Me:"Assuming RT hawk but perspective odd. very small (or poppies ginormous)." Response: "agree.weird perspective, but has to be Red-tail."
Indded. I'll post my email to a probirder colleague of mine expressing same thot. Am happy to put it on Facebook for others to weigh in.
check out Yellow4 (Amigo) putting on a little show for the Big Sur tourists here: http://goo.gl/itBgWE
Love it. Added to CW FB: http://goo.gl/itBgWE. CW photos are condor FB: cliques, frenemies, selfies, foodie photography, cats (ok mtn lions)
posted to CW Facebook. http://goo.gl/itBgWE
altercation
Although I guess the fast Looney Tunes character is this one: http://goo.gl/AJnZN0. Beep Beep. Bugs is Wascally
I was just going to do this!! wreness, you are faster than Bugs Bunny.
Love it. Put it on FB here: http://goo.gl/MTR3UZ
very much so
I can't tell. Odd. Maybe a bag, yes, or a leaf or what?? Other ideas?
Turns out 340 does more than strike poses on or near the scale. Check him out incubating his new egg on our FB page http://goo.gl/g56YHF
Well darn, there should be a bio. It's 583. No dot on the tag even tho it sorta looks like there is in this photo. Maybe you included a dot?
Unk condor expertly plants an April Fool's for us using just a wing and the sun (suspect condors would love whoopiecushions &fake vomit too)
Spring's in the air &they're once again canoodling (technical term I just learned from USFWS page :- ) ). Check it out: http://goo.gl/QbRqLh
The egg is now an adorable chick and O79 is still looking like mother of the year: http://goo.gl/0Jn7Qk
The only orange tags are 21,63,98,56. After much squinting and pulling up surrounding photos, I'd say this is O98. Def see why you thot 25
Yes, I'm full to bursting, but ya'll ravens still need to stand back
Still surprising. And unusual in our CW observations
On this date, sunset was ~6, and u can see that here: http://goo.gl/X6KqkE. Suspect a nearby roost &easy flying from this hilltop location
GPS data show they sometimes fly late if wind conditions are good. Also, these cams accentuate the darkness in BW mode. It is prob twilight
Good call on GOEA! I think the bald head is an illusion. Here's a later photo: http://goo.gl/PSuHuk
this is a winner! (looks like the scale was in the way for one dancer)
good eye! Looks like our kangaroo rat
Camera camera on the rock, who's the cutest of the flock?
another first!
Likely the lights of civilization (eg the flatlands here http://goo.gl/eLHl6O). My guess is the area N of BitterCreek http://goo.gl/sxzQiD
Definitely a hawk, but the tail etc indicates Red-tailed Hawk. I think this is a first on CW, but wreness would know better.
Yes, appears to be a Dipodomys/Kangaroo rat/K-rat. This is perfect habitat for these desert-adapted small mammals.
You all have done it again. Word is it may be mange, which is fairly new in CA GOEA. Very interested in other observations-pls tag as #mange
Got an email in to my GOEA colleague on this. Suspect it's unusual because his initial response was "eeek" He's looking into it
Odd bio indeed. On hatch day they stuffed her back in her shell &"released her" Read more: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW00013hw
1st bred is the 1st yr condor produced an egg. The site is giving Dec31 of yr prior to that egg as date 1stbred. Most eggs layed in Feb/Mar
lol, what a photo -- it does seem like the scale chopped in the correct direction for this to happen!
Interesting contrast. A winter of rain in CA and the grasses grow back. FYI, Tejon ranch has a strong lead-free program--good for condors
working on some new dance moves
Good observation. These lines usually arise because grazers are walking parallel to the hillslope. Probably cows
Yes, an odd tag. -8underline. Did the system give you a bio for it? It should have. It's 418, a female hatched in 06
&I googled images of calf carcass innards (I don't recommend this). Found nothing even remotely this green.So, a mystery, but I vote cud wad
Inquiry to 2 condorbiologists & all we got is: "my best guess is the green is from inside of the GI tract. Stomach or Large intestine maybe"
that's hilarious brittanymitchell
I think the field biologist I emailed about this opened the photo and had to go home sick. I'll let you know when I hear back
Well...that was actually the iffy part--the notion we had any idea what sane people see.
Great photo indeed. At first glance the condor appears to be missing its landing gear
I agree with everything wreness said
I'm gonna put in an inquiry with the pros abt that morsel. If it comes back animal rather than vegetable: next year's "most disgusting"
And they tend to roost together in groups at night, then get up in the morning when the wind conditions are good for flying
btw, nice coyote!
Herps at Pinnacles: http://goo.gl/RhT1gh Nice guide: http://goo.gl/oYSPj0 Size says fence or side blotched lizard but it's blurry.Others?
Yes, I bet too. Great sunning spot.
that's not a boot, it's a giant meat tenderizer
Another FB post on O79, who is tenderly incubating a new egg. See video here: http://goo.gl/A8Tir5
Agreed. We might need a saddest photo category in next year's photo contest
I'd go with 60 too
Now I'm scanning all of these for our weasel
Wow! Appears to be a long-tailed weasel (Mustela frenata). Rather than a rodent, it's a carnivore. Very cool.
I think this is the only photo I've seen of a condor any where near this thing. He doesn't look terribly thrilled
I've been looking at this one all day & scratching my head but all of a sudden it looks like a grass seedhead between camera and condor.
I think he just held this yoga pose for a long time 😃
I think it has been -- I searched after seeing the other & found this older one. Don't believe this version has appeared recently....Right??
Yes, this is the one. It should be retired by now!
Could be subordinate&waiting to get in. Esp if adults do this they cld be dominant & already eaten. If angle is good, check crop for feeding
Interesting!! We'll quantify behavior w/ proximity to carcass data.
good eye. hints of mountain lion in the dawn light
and 30 seconds later: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0004j5o
I'm having trouble seeing the odd tag too, & when I search too hard my eyes rest on that darn (horse? calf?) head &it's game over 😃
looks like the the raven to his left is saying "woah dude, I don't think it's supposed to bend that way"
Foggy night
When I dig up this photo sequence I see an orange tag on the L wing in a subsequent photo -- I can't read it but still nice corroboration
There was 1 bird recorded as having only a left wingtag but a right wing GPS transmitter -- Orange98 or Condor 98.
Here's an adorable photo of 493 as a chick: http://goo.gl/ZnczJP
I think coyote, but yes, tough call.
Yup, some days it's just hard to hold your head up
We'll get the ID in postprocessing since there's only 1 tag with a V. Thanks!
There's an oddball tag V1underline, worn by 451. He later wore white51. Sadly he died 12/7/13 of lead poisoning @age 6.5. The 1 is obscured
Mice-interesting theory! We've commented on it b4, but the scale photos are so comical--always making them appear overly into their weight
Yes, agree. This glossiness has fooled us before.
Deceptive perspective (waaaay close up) but that is a juvenile condor
Argh, CW turned my monkey face into an unhappy face emoticon. How about a proboscis monkey? :C|) (I think I fixed the original).
My soccer-playing son would call that move a "taquito" and bestow huge style points. I'm sure there'd be high fives all around
http://daily.zooniverse.org/2015/01/26/whats-really-at-the-end-of-the-rainbow/
First skunk I've seen! You win a monkey : (|)
That's the condor's crop bulging with carrion. The crop is a storage pouch can hold 3-4 lbs of food. Great view!
I think he's particularly proud that there are 4 condors watching him trying to look nonplussed
I agree -- I can definitely see that as a faded yellow
493 making it easy
I sort of figured the ravens got together here and pushed the cam down the hill
everyone converges on the morning buffet at the same time
Now does that say 19 or 61? Honestly, how the heck are we supposed to read the scale from up here?
new view
raven selfie
They spend weeks to months in large onsite pens w/mentor birds to acclimate them to the wild scene. eg: release pen cam http://goo.gl/2GF6OU
The options are for red tags ending in 1 at this site are 61 and 71. I would guess 71. No worries -- we'll get it in another photo 😃
hmmm. anyone else getting this in the bios?
A kindness of raven. I admit to liking them a whole lot more when they appear solo
But odd. I just checked the online bio &death date shows up properly: http://www.condorwatch.org/#/condors/332 Let us know if prob continues
No. 332 died of lead poisoning on 7/2/13. I'll report the bug. Thanks for letting us know!!
another candidate for the humor mag 😄
Couldn't resist using this promotionally: http://goo.gl/t69NeC
We need to do a humor magazine with gems like this when it's all over
I actually think it's an immature condor and the dark spots in the foreground are one of the nares and the beak opening
Very cool
Golden eagle on scale (yellow curved beak, golden head, brown body, feathered legs) glaring at 2ravens (glossy black feathers, heavy bill)
Sort of looks that way but you can see its head immediately lower left of Bl25underline tag. Funny birds, they do just lie down like this
Ah, yes, I see that. It appears to be the chain that secures the carcass to keep the scavengers from dragging it off
The white things that look like bunny ears are the legs/hoofs of a calf carcass. The feasting condors are a group of 2 yr olds.
I can vouch for the superpowers
Oooh, a new one! Not the clearest image but looks like an American kestrel based on the facial markings and spotted breast. Cool bird
peekaboo
Handsome bird with spectacular pants. Almost looks fake
Did you remember to enter the 3 dots (they are on the bottom of the tag)? Black40 3dots should give you a bio for 340.
I agree it's a pattern in the fur coloration of the carcass but it's bizarre. Reminds me of those posters showing letters in butterfly wings
Yes, agree. I'd say definitely an eagle. Other hints are shape of tail and patterning of tail feathers
And huge thanks to wreness for finding many of the photos and for the original mini-movie idea. She's the one who deserves to big bucks
CW FB acknowledgement: http://goo.gl/aXraou
I hope "interesting" isn't politespeak for pain in the neck
DZM posted an awesome animation of this guy on DailyZoo. Happy New Year! http://daily.zooniverse.org/2014/12/31/golden-eagle-photo-shoot/
Appears to be a red tailed hawk but the perspective is so odd, making the raptor look small, or the poppies ginormous!
Congrats 310 (and 219). Your chick (745) is doing well. Keep up the good work! http://goo.gl/Bq58jS
http://www.condorwatch.org/#/condors/401. very odd that you wouldn't get a bio 😦 I'm guessing an accidental mis-entry of something.
and he knows it
Yes, definitely a golden eagle 😃
Water tanks for firefighting. News stories here: http://goo.gl/sBWZSt, http://goo.gl/LqGoAN &more info w/photo here: http://goo.gl/vBK7JU
Angry birds
most gruesome photo yet of TDHC
Hoo-hoo is it? My birdguy says it's another Saw-whet.Makes sense given photo shortly before that's clearly a SAWH: http://goo.gl/WvPi9M
let me ask around
Can't find a lot of fetching photos of this gal (487, wings spread above) but check out her story: http://goo.gl/avOXCn
The tree walker! Haha, good one. You're just hallucinating because of the heat (123 deg F/51 C)
live rabbit actually
Part of the frustrating faded blue series. It's blue75, or bird 375. Since there's no white75, we will be able to correct the data
I'm going to go with Say's phoebe again: http://goo.gl/PJGIew. Must be good flycatching around those carcasses. http://goo.gl/1poAUg
Couldn't resist. Was gonna post here and let you know but hadn't had a chance yet. 😃
I had to look it up too! Thanks for supplementing my vocabulary
&my fav in this series: http://goo.gl/dL6gfp, where, in my imagining, it flies off after a scuffle & the condors say WTH was that all about?
Approaching the carcass moments before: http://goo.gl/WzxdCS. And here, I think it has snuck in on the far right: http://goo.gl/5FUEfo.
One help in making the eagle call was digging around and finding other photos.....
Even one condor can be a force to reckon with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYRYc30XUgk (thanks to wreness for this video link)
Indeed an unusual situation, the GOEA as an outsider, but we can see it choosing to wait for safer access to the carcass given the mob.
Our team has been studying this photo &we're pretty sure it's an eagle based on feathered head, gold nape, beak, &those legs. More in next..
Interesting backstory on Orange98 here: http://goo.gl/ydz36Z
White80 should yield a bio (it's 480). I see you had the same problem with Yellow39. Weird. Is anyone else getting no bio for cleartags now?
Cool bird! Think it's an immature golden.They have white tail base w/ dark tip like this one. Check photos etc here: http://goo.gl/wchXAA
This appears to be the day of release for 2-year-old 606 (black6 1dot). A bold bird.
Well now we learn 156's trendy fashions have not impressed the single males: http://goo.gl/V3VwWI
This image almost screams "caption me!" Suggestions?
Finally the adults have had their fill and the carcass turns into the kids table
#scale 20?
Yes, but the recently-posted cologne ad photo was also at twilight (on second thought, of course it was)
And if she thought the flying monkeys were creepy, she's definitely landed in the wrong spot
This photo made the Thanksgiving day Dailyzoo. http://daily.zooniverse.org/
Just featured this guy on Facebook for our Saturday selfie. We are at 470 likes over there, with lots of recent interest. Welcome new CWers!
I actually think it's the "butt-end" of a coyote (using wreness's technical term). I see a leg bottom left, and the dark tail spot in ctr.
I actually think it's the front end of said beast. I see a snout and ears, don't I?
See the responses I got here: http://goo.gl/3qHuzK
we really do need a "like" button 😃
Right! It would make more sense to just report the year the individual initiated breeding
So if a condor 1st parented an egg in yr X, its start of breeding is Dec 31, X-1.Not sure why site does it that way, but seems reasonable.
We don't know exact start day of breeding activities(eg courting, etc), but reported laying dates for wild CA eggs range from Jan-Apr
Okay ya'll, I've sent out queries to the folks who provision these, asking what could be wrong with this absolutely delicious looking horse
I have heard the condors have definite preferences and dead calf is just sameold sameold, while dead deer is a treat
Esp in light of this article http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/vultures-use-acid-nasty-bacteria-to-digest-rotting-flesh-1.2849921.
At this angle, I don't recognize the mug. Some of the field biologists watch our Facebook page, so I'll post & see if anyone will claim it.
okay, yes, positive.
Really, you got it twice? That's not supposed to happen.
Speaking of blue necks, check out Topa Topa's spectacular neck on our Facebook page: http://goo.gl/7Q7BgF
cool&punkazz&fun when present in 1s & 2s & 3s, but wouldn't want them to get wind of the "RavenCam" label. U know they'd feel so entitled!
Great condor--turkey vulture comparison photo.
Ah, yes, it's 307, with the best seat in the house. A known tag now, but omitted from our records initially and thus not in Zoo database.
Puhleese don't call it a raven cam. We really don't want to give those guys any more encouragement to do full flock photobombs, do we?! 😃
Looks like a raven with its head highlighted by the sun. Note its size relative to the other raven, and the big heavy raven bill
I agree. Head shape indicates turkey vulture. I also think I can see the white bill
Yes, I agree Canmore. Blurry image, but size is coyote
There's actually a Ton -- this guy was posing for a long time. I'll post in minimovie section: http://goo.gl/1txmc2
#pig
Also got confirmation of Say's Phoebe on this one.
Quite the opposite. I just got confirmation from my birding expert on this one. It's a Great Horned Owl ("horns" down).
actually quite the string of them: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0000c1v , http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0000c2h
Looks like a Say's phoebe hunting insects
Great! Once you see the eyes, it seems obvious but it was a real illusion to me for awhile.
But was able to confirm by looking at the the next photo: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0000mt7
It's 96! Thought it had to be based on limited # of blues (blue tags listed here: http://blog.condorwatch.org/gallery-of-wing-tags/).
345, age 3, trying hard to look majestic -- not easy in that awkward pubescent stage.
Stunning. Golden Eagle (Aquila chrysaetos)
That's a good one! Condor watcher, what say you all??
I'd say 19Black 2 dots. 1 seems to run into dot below it. It's 219, male, hatched 2000, still alive, now wears Yellow19. Dusty camera lens?
Yes! If 2 users click "all marked" or only carcass, it's done. May even lower to 1 for some cases
Okay, I give up. Owl does not work well in this comment box. But isn't this condor adorable?
"The tag system never ceases to amaze". wreness, you are a diplomat-you win an owl
,_ _ _,
(6 v 6)
( __ ^ __ ) \
I'm sure there must be a better descriptor for that part of the 1. Little hats?
538 almost 4 yrs old, and smack in the middle of that awkward stage
A few birders suggested this looks like a Roadrunner based on size/headshape/color/bill. Long tail is pointing directly at camera. BeepBeep
It's Black18 (518).They tend to put very stout serifs on the 1s. Also, zoom in on white tag -it's 87 (487). Note different shape of the 7
I wonder if someone furry or feathered was breathing on the camera?
Great photo for seeing the size difference!
Good find - it's 665 & his tag was left blank (don't know why-- it's the only tag like this!).Pls enter the word: "blank" next time for tag#
I think it might be White51 -- and look what happens next: http://goo.gl/wbCDKo Emphatic Tibetan body language for something - discuss
This from one of the field bios: "We used a really light blue tag with black lettering at 1 pt for 300 series birds...
...but they ended up fading quickly making it hard to tell the difference between white & blue...case in point here!"
Looking at a bunch of tags can help hone your color search image too 😃: http://blog.condorwatch.org/gallery-of-wing-tags/
Except for that horse. You know the one.
Thanks for finding several mystery tags. I know you find them b/c you do a lot of photos! But this 1 looks like 11underl, or411, hatch in 06
Hey, this photo made DailyZoo! http://daily.zooniverse.org/2014/11/06/condor-coyote/
Think you're right. There is a Black6 1dot. It's 606, hatched 4/2011 @the LAZoo & just released 1/29/2013. The wild world is very new to him
So, to be clear, best way to retire photos is to press "all animals marked" button, or "carcass" & then "all animals marked". Easy, right?
Sorry for the confusion. We've been trying to convey this repeatedly on photos, but object comments are an awkward way to disseminate info
To clarify, photos are retired when 2 users classify them as having no animals (w/ or w/o carcass). Unfort, we can't retire based on hashtag
stunning
It seems so undignified...until you look where the head of the one feeding is...
Best to press "all animals marked" & go to next. Photo retirement is automated--only a few (2-3) need to record as blank & it's retired! 😃
Surprised no one has commented on the whitewash on the back of condor front left. Looks like it's the topic of convo among the birds here
I'd say that's white63 (463). The darn antenna makes the 3 look like an 8, but zoom in&you can see it's a 3. Don't you love the coastal fog!
love this
definitely the rubber chicken 😃
Yes! I've never seen this one. Great! And glad to know the system handled the input and gave you the right ID
I'm afraid we have no way to manually retire. Fortunately they're quick to do and only a few need to deem them blank before they're reitred.
I second the red7. I might be looking at the wrong tag.
For photos w/condors, many people view the same photo to ensure good consensus data. Blank photos only get viewed by a few then are retired.
Yes, right on! Western meadowlark, state bird of 6 western states, including my own.
In theory then this photo should not appear again
Saw Amy Cuddy's TED talk &now does 2 min of "power posing" in rare moments when buddies are gone. Helps him cop an attitude with the condors
Very cool. The first report of this behavior here on CW.
You? Identify with the mouthy one? I would never have guessed! 😃
Wish I could go back in time with my sharpie & fix this tag. It's 11 3dots.Fortunately, there's no 77 3dots, so can correct the data posthoc
Or maybe the adult is saying, "move it twerp, that's my seat", and the juvie is saying "as a matter of fact, I was just leaving" 😃
Young and old face off
Rob Simpson, howz about an animated #DailyZoo gif using this & http://goo.gl/cb8BdX, like the zebras (http://goo.gl/nzxNbh), only better 😃
448 found something stringy yummy and everyone is jealous
Gosh, this is a great shot too! #Dailyzoo
332 hatched Apr2004. 317,306, and 310 hatched May2003. Looks like some of them are just starting to mature (teens as you say EB).
Great shot! So cooperative - thanks for standing perpendicular to the cam--could you teach your friends that trick? #Dailyzoo
What do you think of my Halloween batman costume?
Makes sense. 493 was born in 2008 so she would have been 2 years old here, which is the right age to be a gray/black faced juvenile
Sorry folks -- my internet went a little haywire for a minute there but I think I rectified the situation.
Bueller? ... Bueller? ... Bueller? 😃 Blue65 is a reasonable guess.-- I don't have a better one
Not sure why you wouldn't have gotten a bio tho. Are you sure you weren't so excited you accidentally missed the Bio button? 😃
Yes!!!! And you know what you get, don't you? Wait for it..... Here it is: >]]]]">
leave it wreness to find trendy 156's most obscure tag: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0003pd9
Hey, they say they will make this change today. Let us know if you see "still carrion on" in the bios 😃.
But poor 560 has been black60 her whole life. 4 stinkin' years of fashion monotony. Not even a dot or underline to jazz things up
Ha! But some do get to sport the latest trendy color.156 had green1dot in 08, black1dot in 09, red in 10, orange in 11, &red since.No joke
One brave raven does the math - what's 1/2 way between an eagle and a condor?
spooky eyes
Love it. I will ask too -- I might have more luck, but no guarantees.
Hmm-2 diff field sites concluded it's a "weird angle" & is 38 (ie 438) & dot is lower left part of 3. 438 was here then http://goo.gl/c7wjNp
white 38 is 438
My guess is that after the camera fell, grass waving above the lens triggered 100s of photos. I've had that happen with my trailcams
Comment on it again next time so we can compare the date/time.
the latter....
Okay, table sent. Next time you encounter 125, the Bio should reflect that he died in 2014 -- of bobcat predation.
Sad to report 125 died this summer. Writeup on our blog: http://goo.gl/6y5B8. Will send updated BioTable to Zoo with recent deaths.
Zoo has drastically reduced # classifications of "empties" needed to retire to 3. Appears to have had effect of cycling more of them thru
Nice
I see what you mean. I'm on it.
Quite the cluster of pink heads.
Also asking for input on CW FB page here: http://goo.gl/1esWe9
YES indeed. Nice!
And we can see how quickly it faded because 374 is Domino here, just 4 months earlier: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0002ipv
But isn't it encouraging that we come up with the same answer each time the question is asked 😃?!
Didn't understand your math until I zoomed in. Brilliant!
We used light blue w/black #s at 1pt for 300series birds but they faded, making it hard to distinguish betw white&blue-case in pt here!
From field crew:Pretty sure it's 374 (continued in next)
We've now found several birds pink @age 4.5 (many of these earlybirds found by miltonbosch). Like humans there's variation in maturation age
Looking again at the photo I linked to below, noticed I'd matched wrong head to body. Head of 5underline was indeed fully pink here too.
Agree, unless something very dramatic happened overnight: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW00059hj Another investigation....
Could be Yellow but we have no record of 74 with either White or Yellow. Investigating...
Yes, this is 306. We've learned of several tags now that were omitted from our records.Big thanks to our super-observant &meticulous CWers
That's actually a condor on the carcass. A bear would be much bigger. You can see the tag and transmitter antenna. Only condors have these.
I see what you mean -- the positioning makes the little calf look like she could just be sleeping...uh, except for the eagle standing on her
not 71. investigating....
#scale ~20 pounds 317 bright red heads
Same bodies, next day
These yellow tags can look white in bright sun. It's 236 or Yell36. Don't worry, we'll correct it as there is no white36 (as you discovered)
This is one of the sites we have info on carcass placements, and it appears 4 rabbits & a calf were put out the day before this photo
#dailyzoo "an eagle watching a coyote watching a perfect circle of ravens"
Take a closer look -- that is a condor.
One of the ways that they cool themselves is by defecating on their feet. Gotta love these birds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urohidrosis
It is a scale in view of the camera. It's designed with a perchbar to take advantage of their desire to perch near the carcass. It works!
This could be a page out of a children's picture book!
Just love it that you have favorites. Assume you mean 534,543,547? Clear why you like them--they stand perpendicular to camera. Good birds!
#scale 20.5 pounds
Indeed! Hijacking your wing to ask anyone experiencing(or not) a website slowdown to provide more info here: http://goo.gl/DYR5rp Thanks!
Again, a very tough angle. My expert tag reader says it's 75
Investigating
that wingspan again--so impressive
#dailyzoo
My point exactly. I mean really, who do they think they are? So inconsiderate!
I think the right digit must be obscured. White tags are almost all 400 series birds, which fits this guy's age, so choices are 70,77,78.
I agree it looks like 17! The only plausible alternative is 77. I emailed a Pinnacles biologist who concurred it was 77.Tough angle
fabulous!
Blue65, w/companion White82, recently took an exciting foray into the high Sierra. See map here: http://goo.gl/toDioW
Great little video clip of Red11 carrying on after the death of her mate and feeding her now enormous chick: http://goo.gl/os9Juk
Raven(black color/bill shape/body size rel. to scale).See: http://www.condorwatch.org/#/field-guide &raven photos here: http://goo.gl/a6ABaa
Great observation. We are working on a blog post about coloration in condors and will mention bluish necks 😃
Check with field staff -- they say it's 77. Tough angle.
so, the condor equivalent of the pimple phase. you nailed it wreness
Rept from a condor field biologist:sub-adult, ~4 yrs old, which is why pink on neck&face but still dark freckling from when it was a juvie.
Agree--looks like 17.Our tag records show the only whiteX7 is 77 (477, born 08) but I'll ask the release site if we're missing something
As a matter of fact, I was just leaving
Well now there's a good point. I'm afraid I'm going to have post this comment/photo on Facebook. Too funny.
She died of powerline electrocution, but had toxic liver lead levels at the time
A few w/underlined0s were omitted from the tag database (eg307 here http://goo.gl/uhpYly). We'll confirm but agree it's 306, died 6/9/2013
Is the raven on the scale?
Yes, pouting! I can see that too. Condor doesn't care
#scale If I were wreness I'd have a good thought bubble to match this guy's expression
And here's how it fast it can get to this point. Check out this video of condors obliterating a full carcass in 3 hours http://goo.gl/0Kl5M3
Just mark the main concentration of carcass material. Thanks!!
Btw,wreness's great collages of butts&more (http://goo.gl/UIS5gx) recently highlighted on the DailyZoo http://daily.zooniverse.org/ (Aug 26)
I agree-definitely purple. Check out color examples in the Gallery of Wingtags @CW Blog: http://blog.condorwatch.org/gallery-of-wing-tags/
I think you mean this one wreness 😃: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0000ps9
Doubt they're going after meat. Just thinking they could trigger the cam, resulting in lots of shots of nada, as is so often seen @this site
see end of unknown bio board for more on these tag issues
At least it's quick to process. The many soil mounds make me think sm mammals(gophers/grnd squirrels) are repeatedly triggering the cam here
Checking in with the field biologists on these, esp. the orange tag. The 74 might be light blue..
43underline is 543. She was released 10/12/2010 so pretty new at everything and likely bottom of pecking order
Another tough tag. My guess is Blue70, which is 370. She was hatched in 05 and only has a right tag
Very tough tags, I agree! I think the blue one must be 96, and the 16 looks yellow.
Looks like 93 to me. White93 is 493,female hatched in the wild in 08. Still alive
will do
Did you click black or blue? It's black--the blue w/white #s is a royal blue. Here's a photo w/ examples of both blues: http://goo.gl/63jDr3
Let's wish Red11 (111) well. She's rearing a chick & her long-time mate (Red25, aka 125) has died. See his "obit" here: http://goo.gl/BQU0F0
It's white48 (bird448). I know because for all white & blue tags there's no 4, just 44&48, & only 48 has a left tag. & it looks white 😃
Yes, black85. Bird 585, a male hatched 5/2010 and released 12/2011
You are hilarious. I'm sorry -- I have to post this to Facebook. Great humor to start the weekend.
And the top bird apparently just gave the "Beaks Open" order
You may have found a problem in our tag database.Thx! We don't have records of Black07underline. I'll check w/field sites. Guessing it's 307
someone is waiting at a very safe distance for their turn
Nice. And ~10% of the free-flying (non zoo) population.
Just ran across this closeup of Dolly the condor showing similar feather patterning: http://goo.gl/aTaObv
Face shot of what appears to be the same spp 3 months later @same time of day: http://goo.gl/jCCXfo. Consensus ID then was no. saw-whet owl
yes coyote!
An unkindness of ravens. Perfect, huh?
coyote in the fog
perhaps some ace tag readers will have a better guess, but looks like the transmitter antenna is creating a shadow, and that tag is 1 or 11
funny how often it really looks like they're doing just that #scale
Some tags have underlines or dots under the numbers (& they need to be recorded to get right bio). Below 32 here is 3 dots, indicating #332
Yes, good call on the departing juvenile golden. Here's a good key (at least for the underside view): http://goo.gl/nFRupA
I can't tell you how excited I was to get this photo as I was classifying.
Think miltonbosch is correct-there's a pattern on the tag. When I enlarge, I see an underline. Bad angle but suspect it's 47underline=547
Sun may be lightening up feathers, but head shape &beak &head color indicate turkey vultures. Look a lot like last TUVU photo in field guide
wreness, I do believe this is your coyote! What do you think?
599 and her unusual birth are featured in this film: http://www.thecondorsshadow.com/featuring.html
Very observant!! Interesting case.
The egg was laid in wild, then taken to LA Zoo. Day after hatching in zoo it was fostered into a wild nest by placing it back in its shell
I got a Bio for 401! Unfortunately for the Black01Underline tag, not the problematic White1 yet. But still, it's a Bio
That was my coyote voice
Undoubtedly the thought process wreness
Interesting photo because those are turkey vultures (TVs or TUVUs) on the right
A close up of the perch. It helps the condors stand on the scale
That is a wood perch attached to the scale. You will notice it in every photo that has a scale 😃
If not carcass is visible, and none is implied (eg no group crowded around a focal spot), click no carcass present. thanks!
From the release site: "looks like someone discovered ‘ol domino.' The dot was 374’s temporary tag." Great nickname! I'll update our records
and now he's gone.
For a limited time only, see 351 all grown up &handsome, upclose & live here (now wearing Black51_3dots): http://ventanaws.org/condor_cam/
I'm sorry I missed this!! Pls harass us if we don't answer! I've heard abt this tag but don't have it in our records. I know who to ask tho.
Cause of death was "under investigation" but now listed as trauma: blunt force collision/vehicle impact. Inotherwords, hit by a car 😦
#dailyzoo Great image. I feel like I'm seated at the same table as the rest of these juveniles (on second thought, no thanks...)
Just got an "ah hah" from Zooniverse!! They think they've figured out the White1 problem. Pls tell us if you get a bio (hopefully401) 😃
Juveniles waiting for lunch. Beautiful condors all.
Hey, why are you guys leaving?
Whoops, ElisabethB and I were typing at the same time. It's blurry but the head color suggests condor to me. Other thoughts?
That's a condor. Do you see its yellow beak/head and red eye near the carcass?
The eagle looks annoyed by all the company
been there
Hey, just noticed we got a CW coyote on the daily zoo today: http://daily.zooniverse.org/
I'm calling white99 (=499, female, hatched 3/2009) on that one. Do you buy it?
Yes, sadly this one persists. I reported it (again) 2 days ago when I encountered it myself.
I might be confused, but I think it's been ok, except once appeared a bit white in a photo (http://goo.gl/1WJesa) Or no??
Lovely
Thanks inaspin!. It's 365. See response in "Unknown" discussion board.
Love the couple at the scale. White1 is still a deadend bio (argh, not there yet miltonbosch 😦). I've contacted Zooniverse...
This is where I guess I should admit I learn about popular culture mostly by reading the newspaper and listening to radio interviews..
Tell me someone else got the Don Draper reference? And when I referred to the biting condor as the Luis Saurez of condors, anyone? 😄
Lead character on Mad Men. He took on a new identity and has no past (ie no Bio).
Poor 401. Right now he's one of the Don Drapers of Condor Watch
Unfortunately, it takes awhile for Zoon.to implement changes. Can't wait to see you proclaim "White1 FINALLY fixed!!" It's coming mb.
I would say this is Yellow39, which is, as you say 239. The white tags are more the color of the calf legs 😃
Fun fact "the tapetum lucidum of wild pigs are not reflective like other animals making spotlight sightings..difficult" http://goo.gl/ukdCrz
I agree with coyote.
looking a bit shut out from the action too
See my response to this on the unknown ID board 😃
This should be fixed now. This is 307 -- died in 2007 from a rattlesnake bite
And wreness somehow I felt sure you'd refer this question to ElisabethB 😄
I sorry-this was an old gremlin, but it should no longer be possible for the lookup code to =278 for Wh78. I'll shake the trees again.
Not going to weigh in now but for fun put it out to the masses on Facebook: http://goo.gl/TydcaO (but of course feel free to comment here)
I agree.
What ElisabethB said
I'll post on CW Facebook too and let that crowd weigh in
I think you mean the one to the left behind the pole. I agree, almost certainly a condor.
Our moderators are hilarious. Not everyone can do carcass humor.
It's okay to go with your best/educated guess. Something else is really for things like bear, pig, mountain lion, etc. Thanks for your help!
Beautiful fellow
Yes, weird looking blob! I think it's a raven highlighted by the sun.
Hmm, hard to see what that is, but it looks inanimate to me.
If there's a condor on the scale & you can see the weight, pls tag photo w/ #scale. "Something else" is intended for marking animals. Thx!
Those appear to be condors
Yes, those are golden eagles! Maybe they were named golden because"brown eagles" doesn't sound grand and fitting for such magnificent birds
Love this expression!
I believe that is bolt and carabiner that they attach the chain to when securing the carcass
The only blue tags starting with 1X are 11 and 18, so that one is likely 18
Rare sighting of a wrinkle in the space-time continuum
I've emailed Zooniverse on this...
Based on tail length and general body shape, I'm going to say young coyote (coyotes also have big ears). But I will ask a canid biologist
Also helpful - red foxes have black legs & usu a white tail tip. AFAIK, we haven't actually had a fox (red, gray, kit) at the cameras yet.
Those are coyotes. They are always fun to see!
I suspect it's 449. It's just turning pink (see darker head pinker neck). More on the inaccurate bio board in response to your question.
It's Luis Suarez of the condor world!!
A4 is a ridiculously confusing tag. Here's extra helpful info. A4 tag appeared only in 2010. Black44 only in early 2012.
Mamaganoush: has that continued to happen, or just this one photo? Hopefully the latter!
Ravens waiting for their turn at the primo carcass
I think it's 452 (hatched 07, released 08), but 452 is supposed to have 4 dots. I agree it looks like an underline....
Not sure which insult he'd prefer.The TV is enjoying this commentary tho, I'm sure.
Yeah, that head is disturbing. We have detailed feeding data for this site, and yes, 4 rabbits & 2 calves recently placed here
ruckus at the carcass (okay, I admit it, that's not quite as good as Rumble in the jungle or Thrilla in Manilla)
I agree - looks like a juvenile condor (thus the big beak).
I think that's what the juvenile in the back is thinking too
Yes, def looks like Black42 w/2dots when I enlarge. That's 242, male, born 2001 at San Diego WildAnimalPark, released 2002. No chicks yet...
Yes! Wish we could pan the camera.
We asked 4 this change, but Zoon wasn't able to implement. On the bright side, they removed distance to carcass for ravens.Thankyou4yourhrs!
This angle makes 401's head look small
I don't see it. Is it camouflaged?
I'm not sure we can get a clear read of this tag unfortunately
cont: when they're too annoying or in condor personal space, condors may defensively snap/hiss like is about to occur in this picture.
Accd to a field bio: a mild altercation. Ravens can't really hurt condors, but will sometimes annoy them-perhaps a "little bird complex." 😃
Or rather should be 307. Are you saying you entered Black07 and the website said no bio?
Odd. I'll report to Zooniverse. Thx
Yes, that's the antenna on its transmitter, which is attached to its wing tag.
The coyotes are not taking any chances with an eagle here: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0000lrr
it does!
Looks like a group of 3 coyotes
I see 2 ravens center left and 1 raven center right. I might be looking in the wrong place?
Another winner miltonbosch! Confusing because at quick glance it looks like an adult, but that pink head is associated with different bird
I put this one on Facebook http://goo.gl/wxcP2C
GREAT action shot. And I agree -- looks like a golden eagle defending the carcass from 2 coyotes.
Sadly 318 died shortly after this photo. Forensics rept showed he ingested a .22 caliber lead bullet
Now added to the wing tag gallery with kudos to miltonbosch. Fame and fortune are sure to follow!
I agree. The V1 tag has an underline & appeared in 2008, 2009 and the 1st part of 2010. Don't think we've seen it yet, but would love to.
Good find! It's actually Blue 65. I tracked back thru old records and discovered it had been omitted from the Wingtag Gallery. I added it.
The choices for underlined tags ending in 7 are -7 and 47 (Yes, there are a few tags with "-" for the first digit.)
I see a second career as a behavioral ecologist for you wreness!
Oh, I've been following your meticulous documentation of the OEC in night photos 😃, but wondered how you knew which one was him/her here?
Did the site give the wrong ID or a unknown? Thanks!
Don't worry abt misentries or not all of tag visible, etc. We'll resolve those issues in the consensus analysis (with input from many users)
Thanks SP - We really only want reports of misIDs for clearly readable tags so we can troubleshoot website Bio problems.
Okay, I have to ask. How can you tell it's your one-eyed coyote? I feel dumb
Agree with all you've said here wreness, but funny, just 2 hrs after this there was a cool broad-daylight bear photo posted (diff. site) 😃
Maybe they have bets about who can choke down the most, and are very scientific in determining who wins
Funny how many of these scale photos come out looking as if there is great interest in the weigh in.
wow - first day time bear I've seen!
Answered here: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/boards/BCW0000005/discussions/DCW00001pu?page=1&comment_id=538b48c1241fe17bc500000b
It's 294, which in 06&07 had a white tag. More recently it's had black or yellow tags. This is a known issue awaiting a site fix.Thx & sorry
Thanks! 412 should have 4 dots. This is 512. Will report it.
Good thinking, but remember the tag systems change thru time. 340 wore Black40 in 06 & 07, then in 08 got Black 40 3dots. So this ID is OK
Nice!
Good instincts. Some of the 1's can look a lot like 7's. This is 67 (there is no black61, only blue and red)
I would record that tag as X9 white. I think the left side of the tag is obscured
Thanks for your repts, but we only need the photo talk url if you report them somewhere other than the photo talk (eg discuss board)
Think you're saying you misentered Bl 47under, as Bl17under, yes? Other tag does not seem clear enough to read (but can't be wh8)
All the purples are 600 series, but not vice versa. Some 600s have black tags, and one bird, 665, has a blank yellow tag!
Thanks. It's 460. Sigh...
Yes, that's yellow
Nice observation!
Would only be fun if you could control it.
??? No veo cóndores. Sólo águila y cuervos.
Fun fact from the field guide: adult condors can...change their skin color from pale grey blue to bright red to deep yellows to communicate
2!
I had to email one of the field biologists for clarification. This is Red11. 1's are funky, huh? I'll put example photos in WingTag Gallery
I can only clearly see 5underline. There is no 5onedot, so I don't think that's right for that tag. Still, should never get 2bios. Reporting
Thanks. I'll report it.
Did you remember to indicate the underline? ie, did you enter Black34underline? Thanks for clarifying
Tough one, but I would say turkey vulture (TUVU) based on head shape and size
Don't see an orange tag, but might not be looking in the right spot. I see a red tag in back right. Remember orange tags have black letters
Great answer wreness
Yes Bl75. Remember you super volunteers can check the list of blue tags here: http://blog.condorwatch.org/gallery-of-wing-tags/
512-- not sure why the site said 412. 512 died 1/9/13 from golden eagle predation. Clarifies why condors stand back from eagles at carcasses
It sure looks blue but there is no blue 18 so I think it must be black.
Yes, great contrast in size!
Beautiful!
We do too We have requested this modification to the website.
Are you actually getting an ID when you enter 9? Or are you getting unknown? Thanks for clarifying
Interesting. The white 7X series birds were born in 08, so this is a young bird. Looks like W77, or 477.
BTW, 405 is the only central CA bird with just a 5 on the tag. It has had an underlined and a nonunderlined tag
Hmm, I don't feel confident that we can see enough of that tag to be sure it is a single digit 5.
Actually, there is no white 9, and it looks like the tag is curled a bit and there's another digit we can't read. Maybe 94.
I'm sorry. We're just waiting for Zooniverse to fix this. I have no idea why unknown IDs are being reported. By my lookup table it's 599
Let's not mark this type so we can focus on the true misIDs. Thanks!!! 😃
So, it's not really a missID if only part of the tag is reported. There's more than one White?7 and Black?4 tags so we have no way of IDing
Check our FB page for a longer commentary: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Condor-Watch/213592792168601
Definitely black (it's 568). Did you enter black or blue?
Looking into it.
The sun can washout the Yellow tags but note the tinge of Yellow on 16. The rest of the full numbers should have IDs tho.
That appears to be Black47underline
That looks like Yellow6. But Black13 should have bio. Thank you.
Thanks!
I agree - very photogenic!
Thanks-Y62 should have bio! 16 tag is actually Yellow. Check GalleryofWingTags for color examples. http://goo.gl/HGNpF7 I'll add this one.
Did you enter it as Black90? If so, it should have a bio.
That's actually Black. Check out our new Gallery of Wing Tags for some examples of Blues: http://blog.condorwatch.org/gallery-of-wing-tags/
turkey vulture in background off to the right
OK, got me. Was trying to protect the condors' reputations, but bet they're discussing a plan to drop rocks on the ravens as they fly off
Thank you. Will try to sort that out. Btw, it's 351, male, hatched in 2004, released in 2005
They have probably eaten their fill 😃
My guess is that Y16, or 216. Hard to tell though.
Scrutinized this in my photo editor & checked list based on transmitter locn, year, etc. Best guess is 52 for bird on R. But not definitive!
White. Odd exposure maybe due to sun angle -- tag looks outlined in blue (it's not) & tag itself looks orangish. I'll add to examples.
This is blue. I'm adding it to my gallery of example wing tag colors, which we will post on the blog this weekend.
This is black. I'm adding it to my gallery of example wing tag colors. Most dotted wing tags are black
I would say that is White 0, which is bird 400. She unfortunately just died this month at age 8
That's purple4 (#604). Other is black. Can't tell if it's 9 or 9X. In the end, another photo close in time will give us data on that bird.
As did I at first! At this angle, it's almost impossible to see it as an A. Fortunately, this bird didn't wear that funky tag very long.
Yes, that's yellow. We plan on posting some example tag photos soon to help out.
Sorry, that is a black tag. Blue tags are light blue. Will post more tag examples in the next few days.
Orange79 is 79, oldest wild female, born in 1992. She is highlighted in our most recent Facebook post
That is actually orange. A quick way to distinguish is that the red tags have white letters and the orange have black letters.
Took awhile to sort out! Tag =A4, which is 514, hatched 2009. 1 of only 3 with a letter on tag for part of a year. Will add info to guide
That's right, we are gathering data from many years of photos. 351 was a juvie in 2006, when the photo was taken
unfortunately, time is sometimes off on the cameras, but date is correct, and relative time is correct for a sequence of photos.
Black34under is 543. Is that what you meant? We are working on the bio to tag assignments. A series of little glitched that WILL be fixed
I apologize for the frustration it's causing.
Tough one. I too thought this was Y63, but that's impossible so I enlarged & scrutinized. It's Y62 with a shadow making the 2 look like a 3
Agree!
Good Q. But no, s/he is just stuffed. It would be more unusual for a condor to be alone on the ground w/o others around for an extended time
Interesting view. I think it might be the way the wind is blowing the guard hairs.
Hmm, I see 32 with 3 dots. Am I looking at the wrong bird?
...raven's will sometimes mess with predators by pulling tails/tail feathers while they eat, but this is unusual....
Great observation. This is what a field biologist said about this: Hahaha!!! That is NOT normal....
It looks like a juvenile condor that just doesn't quite get what's going on 😃"
Yes, the tagging system is complicated and has differed thru time and from site to site. but the 3 dots +32 indicates this is bird 332
Hard to read tag. I think it's white 81, which is 481, female born in 2008
Odd. 43 bl underline, 78 white, and 11 white should all give you bios. As wreness says, post if you enter clear info and get unknown
And another chick this year -- see the Condor watch Facebook page
That's right. 6 yellow is 206! See the bottom of the field guide for more on the tags.
Yes, I'd say that black91, 591, male, born 2011, still alive!
use hashtag #wrongid
If possible. Trying to sort out why this is happening. Would help if you could report tag # and what ID the website assigned it. Thanks!
Just means last 2 digits are 0x. This is 405, born in 2006. The 100s digit indicates approximate age. They are now assigning tags in 700s
Good observation! 111, the most prolific of all the wild females in CA
Thanks!!
Were you told one of these was 402? Do you know which one. We are really trying to sort this out. Thanks for clarifying.
Darn. They just implemented a fix a few hrs ago that I thought would resolve this. Do you remember what condor the site said this was?
MisIDs happening because this is SoCal and the website is assigning Ctrl CA IDs. We're waiting impatiently for a tech fix on this issue.
Love this photo
I see 3!
So sorry - this is 563, born in 2010. Tech staff are fixing a few bugs in the connection between tags and bios. The photo is great!
Yes, looks like a gray fox to me based on black line on tail and size. Nice!
Yes, a wild pig!
Bobcat! Awesome!
Have you completed the image? The system doesn't let you skip photos so it keeps going back to the one you are working on. Hope that's it.
...Condors might spend hours or an entire day feeding, interacting, and loafing at a carcass."
...While waiting their turn to feed, or after feeding, young condors will often lay on the ground to rest and interact with one another....
From the field biolotists:: "Condors are very social and it is typical to see a large number of condors feeding on a carcass together....
These are all condors. It would be unusual to see a turkey vulture in the midst of feeding condors. And they would be clearly smaller
But no worries, each photo is analyzed by multiple people!
Those are juvenile condors. You can barely make out a yellow tag on the center left bird, but the tags on the others are hidden from view.
This is 512 who died Jan 2013. Seems to be an occasional glitch linking tags to IDs. The tech staff are working on. Sorry for the confusion!
These are deceased dairy calves. The carcasses are chained at condor feeding stations so condors and other scavengers don't drag them off
Indeed 318 died Nov 2012, but he was alive in June 2011 when this photo was taken.
One of the older birds out there, though not very old for a condor. Keep an eye out for #21--born in 1980 and the oldest of the bunch
She's their girl
I see blue, black, and red tags. But you're right, the blue of the tags is lighter than the blue on the check box. We'll try to adjust that!
The latter!
I think you're right
Thank you 340! How did you know I was looking for some tag examples with dots to add to the field guide? #helpfulcondor
#mugshot
That's a young condor! Less than a year old.
Yes, 2 golden eagles!
Golden eats, raven waits
#meadowlark
Error arose inadvertently due to Zooniverse updates. They will try to fix it.
Sorry for long delay in addressing issue. Does appear to be a display glitch. eg, here, all showing as tag 43, tho underlying bios are ok
588 dining alone
name that flycatcher?
cooperative is unusual for teenagers. they must be up to something
Tough angle -- but it turns out it is a 26 dot https://goo.gl/3tY1zU
Right on the $$ with the wild boar call. I pulled up a later photo: https://goo.gl/Y8f4s6
my guess is insect. Other guesses?
you got it!
Yes! great!!
I see what you see -- looks like a dog peeing on the carcass (ha), but that's actually two carcasses.
Hmm, left looks like 25 underline, and middle 43 underline (would be polite if they'd turn a bit!). Here's a bit later https://goo.gl/4Y5bZI
I was just leaving in fact!
Would definitely call that K-rat or Dipodomys. They have large eyes, which might make them look bigger than they are. Nice one!
We don't. Hmm, if I'm looking at the right thing, think it might be part of the carcass or a rabbit carcass. It's in other photos
Nice! Might need to make a slide show of "incoming!" birds
Maybe just texting out "chaos, panic, disorder....my work here is done!"
I had to google that!
I'd say it's an eagle that has gotten bloodied and unkempt while working on the carcass
just a full and relaxed one!
beautiful
Whoa, no idea about this tag. Will investigate!
the gloved one
now if only we could get them to clean the dust off the lens before they strike a pose...
You're right! Helpful to remember that red tags have white numbers and orange tags have black numbers.
Oh goodness. Didn't realize there was another. Same painful bloat. Looks just as popular with the diners as the OJH (original jello horse)
Indeed -- nice light. We put a collection of new photos on facebook last night https://goo.gl/MCmGP0. This one is worthy too.
yes
love it!
true. a first for me. good catch
By process of elimination (yr, site) it should be 375, 75 3dot. And indeed:https://goo.gl/i6bt8I
yes!
306--she died of electrocution. Some may be curious so here's info on why large birds like condors can be electrocuted https://goo.gl/H3mVzW
It sure does look like that but it must 3dots under a double digit number at an oblique angle
sure looks that way!
only ~50, so this is 2/3 of southern flock. Ultimate hope is they will feed across the landscape and all carcasses will be lead free!
Yes, remarkable gathering. Only about 150 in CA currently for both Ctrl and SoCal combined. This is SoCal, where in 2011 there were...
Great find! Will put on CW Facebook to get the week off to a good start
most cooperative condor ever!
Indeed
Fun fact: this guy is nicknamed Igor and was the last bird captured from the wild. Here's a brief bio: https://goo.gl/QMKJt4
Indeed!
That awkward moment when an argument breaks out at the Sunday dinner table.
Gosh look they all have mouthfuls of fur -- taking full advantage of the core competency of the horsie
Good eye. I vote K-rat
too funny wreness!
spectacular
walking to the weigh-in
#human striding away at dusk
Great photo. Much going on in it includingBlue11's blue neck, Red90 looking cute, and synchronized poses by Bl25 and 43 underline
incoming!
Now that's a feast
agree
Click the x on the upper right -- to the right of the circle that says "Choose". Or use shift backspace.
too many. clearly they had a camera setup differently on this date. have tried to get the excess removed -- will try again
gorgeous
Same bio said their other interest in scale is "they just like to mess with things"
At workshop past 2 days with roomful of condor biologists. Pinnacles bio said the scale best place to scrape carcass goo off your head
21 chicks for ole 21: https://goo.gl/DgTCL0
I'm with wreness. Probably not a bird, as they are very unusual at this predawn hour
This image has only 2 carcasses in it.
Only on Condor Watch do you find these morbid and stellar conversations. Had to post it https://goo.gl/NDbHN8
I'm going to file this away in my second career options folder. Condor Brand Nail Polish.
I agree wreness. Hard to make out what is going on with the blurry action in the darkness, but this is 2 min later: https://goo.gl/B10FX5
So special that poor tuvu, who doesn't even have a tag, is taking off
One of my all time favorite shots. Thanks inaspin. https://goo.gl/YDkyRL
Agree with everything you said wreness
I nominate this bird for the cooperative condor category
love it!
Happy Valentines Day!
Love it. FB material for sure
nice complement to the 28 condors.
Wow! It's a party. Raven here isn't sure if he's invited
Looks like sunlight glistening off the golden sheen of the feathers on the back of the head and neck.
Nice! added to our FB page: https://goo.gl/yARLHO
Agree it looks red. Helpful to remember that red tags have white #s, orange have black, http://blog.condorwatch.org/gallery-of-wing-tags/
Raven photobomb
out of the mist
And to all a good night!
Yes! How can this not have made #dailyzoo yet? It's one of our most arresting images
This is 417 on her release day! Hatched at SD Wild AnimalPark & spent 3.5 months acclimating in an enclosure at Pinnacles NP before release
Yes, excellent! This photo and your comment are perfect. Will post on FB
No, not critical. There are no tags with both digits underlined that indicate a different bird.
Love the foot!
Was so absorbed by the sinister coyote in the foreground that I missed his sleeping friend in the background
Colorful bunch and two floofs
Ha. Might have to use this one for a Thanksgiving Day post, as this is how many of us here in the US are going to feel Thursday afternoon
coyote pulling hard enough to tilt the earth
Look at this huge group.
OK-sorted out. Dots are actually "FW". It's a chick tag. Bird is 482 (not 483 due to order mixup). Sadly 482 has been missing almost a yr
Wow -- didn't even notice the earhole because I was so distracted by the carcass shrapnel on that one.
Another good one! Another one to steal for Facebook https://goo.gl/8vqsv9
Awesome. Humbler, but he always had a hint of that swagger
Check out what time they do the carcass drops!
Tho nothng can bring back the hr/Of splendor in the grass, of glry in the flwr/We will grieve not, rather find/Strngth in what remains behnd
Thanks for the idea of looking at photos near the time of these others. U guys are great! Found a cool action sequence https://goo.gl/ttzKN3
Survived by offspring #328, #526, #683, &this yr’s fledgling #778, who's been soaring above his birth territory often near his dad (old #21)
With regret I report we lost another fine bird this week: https://goo.gl/MHDAJM
Anyone able to find a better photo of this grande dame?
wonderful
Yes, 70! Here's an image from moments earlier: https://goo.gl/q8cW6v
Well, yah -- what do you think the walking shrub to the right is fleeing from?
Think the one in back is our old friend 47 underline (547). There's a glare on the 4. But this will get fixed so no worries.
Now that is a beautiful condor!
Had to highlight 😦: https://goo.gl/ZiNjhx
Had to highlight: https://goo.gl/ZiNjhx
Looks like we need to update our records. Thanks for pointing that out!
Perfect illustration for today's Facebook post: https://goo.gl/VpA8U3
Good deduction! 231 was hatched in 2000 and 294 in 2003, so 231 was fully mature in 2007 and 294 was still a teenager.
Indeed! https://goo.gl/bPDbb0
I see your point! But terribly blurry photo. Only 2007 birds with left tags that are Black2dots and look a bit like this are 31 and 94.
likely Say's phoebe
We covered these complex topics in advanced mammalogy. With such subtle dimorphism, it's almost impossible for the novice to discern 😃
There are data quality reasons for not having a go-back option, but I can relate to the arghh -- have done this too. It will be corrected
Yes. They are wild boar/feral pig hybrids (all the same species -- Sus scrofa). And that is a male.
Not a fair comparison due to distance, but love the size diff: http://goo.gl/ouQvcK Maybe someone else can find a better comparison shot
This CW photo was highlighted in the Condor Cave FB page (and ours too) today. https://goo.gl/Qj245R https://goo.gl/3c0KfG
Wow! Good eyes!!
This beautiful gal successfully reared a chick with another female. Check our FB page and also this sweet timelapse: https://goo.gl/WURAKs
watcha got there raven?
We're all about neologisms over here at condor watch 😃
For more on floof muffining, see our most recent blog post: http://goo.gl/Cttt1S
Gus, quick, wings up, this one's for the tutorial!
We have a guest blog post on floof muffins and other condor quirks coming out this weekend. Stay tuned!
you're welcome!
Thanks wreness! Now updated with better/direct link to video
Need some cuteness in your day? Check out this video of fuzzy chick 744 learning to sun him/herself like a big bird. https://goo.gl/OOfyht
If I ever visit this site, the first thing I'm gonna do is lie down and rest my head on that scale.
Wow wreness- think we were writing at the exact same time! Recent birds are more likely to only have 1. I'll ask the field sites why.
Many condors have tags on both wings (eg: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW00046tn). Is that what you mean?
Almost certainly Kangaroo rat or K-rat. Dipodomys sp.These are very cool arid land rodents. They can produce metabolic water from their food
We can nominate for #DailyZoo. It's stunning! But we just got promo-ed there yesterday so we probably won't get any DZ love for awhile
Also, Red56 is a SoCal flock bird so that input will throw an error because this is a Central CA photo
Good catch on the upsidedown tag. Probably is Red90 but don't think we can see clearly enough to say for sure.
Appears that's white 51. Here is the next photo in sequence: https://goo.gl/8Gi6k6. Thanks! We'll get the correct ID from these other photos
I think those are actually white38 and white11. tough angles
Somebody is getting a talking to
Ooh, I love this. Posted our new theme song here: https://goo.gl/J6Xjdd
Fortunately it's not that. It's the antenna for a tracking devise. Most birds have a radio or gps tag for monitoring purposes
Hmmm, I wonder if it could be just 1 or 2 birds that do this. 626, I'm watching you!
Agree it looks odd but they will do this when resting after eating. The volunteers dubbed them floof muffins. May need a blogpost on FMs!
2 condors pretending to be carcasses (or floof muffins)
Yes, they're surprisingly light compared to the hefty condors (and yes, this pose makes your head look small, buddy)
thank you!
You can almost hear the cloud of flies buzzing
Love it. It's on FB: https://goo.gl/HPWRLx
Yes, 377. She died young, in 6/08, and her death was attributed to a wildfire. She was roosting at night in proximity to the fire.
Tantrum or dance, either way he's managed to knock the scale over!
Absolutely stunning! #dailyzoo
That's what friends are for.
G Haldursson, if we could "like" comments on CW, we would like yours (and many others)!
That's a conundrum! I think it must be white28, shown here 1 min later: https://goo.gl/pIiVfc. She had L tag and GPS. Died in 2013 of lead
Gorgeous. Posted to FB: https://goo.gl/WhKoVZ
Nice! Facebooked this one.
strangely soothing image
I'm pretty sure that's not what most people would say when they saw this image. But we are not most people here on CW are we?
Love it! Letter salesman was Lefty, but this is Righty (better for # sales to connect with buyer's left hemisphere??) https://goo.gl/KIQh4m
And just how do they pay the pizza guy? Check it out here: https://goo.gl/KIQh4m
That category does seem to have broad applicability though!
This guy got DailyZooed today: http://daily.zooniverse.org/
Let's ask the ravens to test out the postulate that this eagle is reachless
Looks like a zeppelin to me too. 317 looks concerned
Ha!
I agree. Good detective work! This will get sorted out in data processing using adjacent photos. eg: https://goo.gl/HWyJBC
Definitely must be a trampoline there. Why are we just finding this out now?!
😄
I see that, but I think it might be wood. Here's another view: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0004277. What do you think?
It does look v bear like, but I checked other photos & since the black blob was motionless for at least 2 hours I'm going with calf carcass
This is a golden eagle. Pls see the Field Guide for help identifying the animals you will see here http://www.condorwatch.org/#/field-guide
I think it is a raven but hard to tell for sure. You don't need to mark birds in trees tho.
Made me smile at the end of a long day. That alone makes it CW Facebook material. Long live condor humor!
I so agree!
Facebooked this one, with kudos to canmore1919. Love the hanging feet
thanks
And trust me, nothing is harder to reach with your beak than the top of your own head
that bloated feeling
Raven on far left: "Uh, I'm pretty sure that's not a good landing spot dude"
Observant
Check out 190 The Redwood Queen w/ her chick:
https://goo.gl/1Z8WjZ
(using my favorite parenting strategy for the 2nd 1/2 of the clip)
Great size comparison!
Yes, 2 birds died in water tanks in 9/13 -- unfortunate and apparently freak incidents. http://goo.gl/3Zmhly
From wikipedia: Condors are so large they can be mistaken for a small distant plane, which possibly occurs more often than...4 another bird
No, its a furry tail, which makes it 100% different than an EW rat tail. More like a gerbil. I swear, they're really cute
No, I don't want to talk about it
Interesting tuft. My sense is that it's just really windy and blowing from behind. S/he seems alert to potential trouble afoot downwind
Everything about this photo and this comment is so quintessentially CondorWatch. https://goo.gl/1my0yL
you have to watch out for these guys, they're little tyrants 😃
Think you're right that it's our go-to bird, Say's phoebe, based on better photo captured after it's settled on scale http://goo.gl/SAAbFf
Interesting. Looked at other shots and this coyote is holding its L leg up, and so posture may make belly protrude. Leg looks badly injured!
such a colorful face
Edna reminds Jill she wouldn't need that big ole running start if she hadn't choked down the whole liver herself
Cool. Definitely a striped skunk - Mephitis mephitis. Remember opossums have bare rat-like tails and bears are bigger/longer-legged/tailess
Here's an example of a v. faded blue tag w/ black numbers http://goo.gl/2ay3KL (74 ctr back). It stymied CWers (&me) because it looks white
Learning process. Lt blue w/blk faded & could be confused with white, so switcheroo to royal blue w/wh combo.
Think it is a raven & v. small carcass(compare: http://goo.gl/5UxfNt). Waddya think? Best illusion is mirror image spirit raven on carcass
Great shot. Posted to FB, credited to you 😃
Nice! I posted to FB, credited to you 😃
Oh you're right. Good eye!!
& for the condor to his left, wing up, dontcha just hate it when you're last bird to the roost & only the lowest branch is available?
I see that. I'll ask what it is.
no doubt that would give 534 great pleasure
See below. You're not the first to see it as dotted
May need to re-evaluate other IDs& I shoulda looked at this one.My fault. Birder consulted on original thot size was deceptive, as it can be
love this!
These are condors. See Field Guide for help identifying http://www.condorwatch.org/#/field-guide Note distinctive beak among other traits
wow, so similar to this one: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0004521. It's the condor sunset wingstretch. preliftoff
Well this one definitely has kestrel face markings.
Me:"Assuming RT hawk but perspective odd. very small (or poppies ginormous)." Response: "agree.weird perspective, but has to be Red-tail."
Indded. I'll post my email to a probirder colleague of mine expressing same thot. Am happy to put it on Facebook for others to weigh in.
check out Yellow4 (Amigo) putting on a little show for the Big Sur tourists here: http://goo.gl/itBgWE
Love it. Added to CW FB: http://goo.gl/itBgWE. CW photos are condor FB: cliques, frenemies, selfies, foodie photography, cats (ok mtn lions)
posted to CW Facebook. http://goo.gl/itBgWE
altercation
Although I guess the fast Looney Tunes character is this one: http://goo.gl/AJnZN0. Beep Beep. Bugs is Wascally
I was just going to do this!! wreness, you are faster than Bugs Bunny.
Love it. Put it on FB here: http://goo.gl/MTR3UZ
very much so
I can't tell. Odd. Maybe a bag, yes, or a leaf or what?? Other ideas?
Turns out 340 does more than strike poses on or near the scale. Check him out incubating his new egg on our FB page http://goo.gl/g56YHF
Well darn, there should be a bio. It's 583. No dot on the tag even tho it sorta looks like there is in this photo. Maybe you included a dot?
Unk condor expertly plants an April Fool's for us using just a wing and the sun (suspect condors would love whoopiecushions &fake vomit too)
Spring's in the air &they're once again canoodling (technical term I just learned from USFWS page :- ) ). Check it out: http://goo.gl/QbRqLh
The egg is now an adorable chick and O79 is still looking like mother of the year: http://goo.gl/0Jn7Qk
The only orange tags are 21,63,98,56. After much squinting and pulling up surrounding photos, I'd say this is O98. Def see why you thot 25
Yes, I'm full to bursting, but ya'll ravens still need to stand back
Still surprising. And unusual in our CW observations
On this date, sunset was ~6, and u can see that here: http://goo.gl/X6KqkE. Suspect a nearby roost &easy flying from this hilltop location
GPS data show they sometimes fly late if wind conditions are good. Also, these cams accentuate the darkness in BW mode. It is prob twilight
Good call on GOEA! I think the bald head is an illusion. Here's a later photo: http://goo.gl/PSuHuk
this is a winner! (looks like the scale was in the way for one dancer)
good eye! Looks like our kangaroo rat
Camera camera on the rock, who's the cutest of the flock?
another first!
Likely the lights of civilization (eg the flatlands here http://goo.gl/eLHl6O). My guess is the area N of BitterCreek http://goo.gl/sxzQiD
Definitely a hawk, but the tail etc indicates Red-tailed Hawk. I think this is a first on CW, but wreness would know better.
Yes, appears to be a Dipodomys/Kangaroo rat/K-rat. This is perfect habitat for these desert-adapted small mammals.
You all have done it again. Word is it may be mange, which is fairly new in CA GOEA. Very interested in other observations-pls tag as #mange
Got an email in to my GOEA colleague on this. Suspect it's unusual because his initial response was "eeek" He's looking into it
Odd bio indeed. On hatch day they stuffed her back in her shell &"released her" Read more: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW00013hw
1st bred is the 1st yr condor produced an egg. The site is giving Dec31 of yr prior to that egg as date 1stbred. Most eggs layed in Feb/Mar
lol, what a photo -- it does seem like the scale chopped in the correct direction for this to happen!
Interesting contrast. A winter of rain in CA and the grasses grow back. FYI, Tejon ranch has a strong lead-free program--good for condors
working on some new dance moves
Good observation. These lines usually arise because grazers are walking parallel to the hillslope. Probably cows
Yes, an odd tag. -8underline. Did the system give you a bio for it? It should have. It's 418, a female hatched in 06
&I googled images of calf carcass innards (I don't recommend this). Found nothing even remotely this green.So, a mystery, but I vote cud wad
Inquiry to 2 condorbiologists & all we got is: "my best guess is the green is from inside of the GI tract. Stomach or Large intestine maybe"
that's hilarious brittanymitchell
I think the field biologist I emailed about this opened the photo and had to go home sick. I'll let you know when I hear back
Well...that was actually the iffy part--the notion we had any idea what sane people see.
Great photo indeed. At first glance the condor appears to be missing its landing gear
I agree with everything wreness said
I'm gonna put in an inquiry with the pros abt that morsel. If it comes back animal rather than vegetable: next year's "most disgusting"
And they tend to roost together in groups at night, then get up in the morning when the wind conditions are good for flying
btw, nice coyote!
Herps at Pinnacles: http://goo.gl/RhT1gh
Nice guide: http://goo.gl/oYSPj0
Size says fence or side blotched lizard but it's blurry.Others?
Yes, I bet too. Great sunning spot.
that's not a boot, it's a giant meat tenderizer
Another FB post on O79, who is tenderly incubating a new egg. See video here: http://goo.gl/A8Tir5
Agreed. We might need a saddest photo category in next year's photo contest
I'd go with 60 too
Now I'm scanning all of these for our weasel
Wow! Appears to be a long-tailed weasel (Mustela frenata). Rather than a rodent, it's a carnivore. Very cool.
I think this is the only photo I've seen of a condor any where near this thing. He doesn't look terribly thrilled
I've been looking at this one all day & scratching my head but all of a sudden it looks like a grass seedhead between camera and condor.
I think he just held this yoga pose for a long time 😃
I think it has been -- I searched after seeing the other & found this older one. Don't believe this version has appeared recently....Right??
Yes, this is the one. It should be retired by now!
Could be subordinate&waiting to get in. Esp if adults do this they cld be dominant & already eaten. If angle is good, check crop for feeding
Interesting!! We'll quantify behavior w/ proximity to carcass data.
good eye. hints of mountain lion in the dawn light
and 30 seconds later: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0004j5o
I'm having trouble seeing the odd tag too, & when I search too hard my eyes rest on that darn (horse? calf?) head &it's game over 😃
looks like the the raven to his left is saying "woah dude, I don't think it's supposed to bend that way"
Foggy night
When I dig up this photo sequence I see an orange tag on the L wing in a subsequent photo -- I can't read it but still nice corroboration
There was 1 bird recorded as having only a left wingtag but a right wing GPS transmitter -- Orange98 or Condor 98.
Here's an adorable photo of 493 as a chick: http://goo.gl/ZnczJP
I think coyote, but yes, tough call.
Yup, some days it's just hard to hold your head up
We'll get the ID in postprocessing since there's only 1 tag with a V. Thanks!
There's an oddball tag V1underline, worn by 451. He later wore white51. Sadly he died 12/7/13 of lead poisoning @age 6.5. The 1 is obscured
Mice-interesting theory! We've commented on it b4, but the scale photos are so comical--always making them appear overly into their weight
Yes, agree. This glossiness has fooled us before.
Deceptive perspective (waaaay close up) but that is a juvenile condor
Argh, CW turned my monkey face into an unhappy face emoticon. How about a proboscis monkey? :C|) (I think I fixed the original).
My soccer-playing son would call that move a "taquito" and bestow huge style points. I'm sure there'd be high fives all around
http://daily.zooniverse.org/2015/01/26/whats-really-at-the-end-of-the-rainbow/
First skunk I've seen! You win a monkey : (|)
That's the condor's crop bulging with carrion. The crop is a storage pouch can hold 3-4 lbs of food. Great view!
I think he's particularly proud that there are 4 condors watching him trying to look nonplussed
I agree -- I can definitely see that as a faded yellow
493 making it easy
I sort of figured the ravens got together here and pushed the cam down the hill
everyone converges on the morning buffet at the same time
Now does that say 19 or 61? Honestly, how the heck are we supposed to read the scale from up here?
new view
raven selfie
They spend weeks to months in large onsite pens w/mentor birds to acclimate them to the wild scene. eg: release pen cam http://goo.gl/2GF6OU
The options are for red tags ending in 1 at this site are 61 and 71. I would guess 71. No worries -- we'll get it in another photo 😃
hmmm. anyone else getting this in the bios?
A kindness of raven. I admit to liking them a whole lot more when they appear solo
But odd. I just checked the online bio &death date shows up properly: http://www.condorwatch.org/#/condors/332 Let us know if prob continues
No. 332 died of lead poisoning on 7/2/13. I'll report the bug. Thanks for letting us know!!
another candidate for the humor mag 😄
Couldn't resist using this promotionally: http://goo.gl/t69NeC
We need to do a humor magazine with gems like this when it's all over
I actually think it's an immature condor and the dark spots in the foreground are one of the nares and the beak opening
Very cool
Golden eagle on scale (yellow curved beak, golden head, brown body, feathered legs) glaring at 2ravens (glossy black feathers, heavy bill)
Sort of looks that way but you can see its head immediately lower left of Bl25underline tag. Funny birds, they do just lie down like this
Ah, yes, I see that. It appears to be the chain that secures the carcass to keep the scavengers from dragging it off
The white things that look like bunny ears are the legs/hoofs of a calf carcass. The feasting condors are a group of 2 yr olds.
I can vouch for the superpowers
Oooh, a new one! Not the clearest image but looks like an American kestrel based on the facial markings and spotted breast. Cool bird
peekaboo
Handsome bird with spectacular pants. Almost looks fake
Did you remember to enter the 3 dots (they are on the bottom of the tag)? Black40 3dots should give you a bio for 340.
I agree it's a pattern in the fur coloration of the carcass but it's bizarre. Reminds me of those posters showing letters in butterfly wings
Yes, agree. I'd say definitely an eagle. Other hints are shape of tail and patterning of tail feathers
And huge thanks to wreness for finding many of the photos and for the original mini-movie idea. She's the one who deserves to big bucks
CW FB acknowledgement: http://goo.gl/aXraou
I hope "interesting" isn't politespeak for pain in the neck
DZM posted an awesome animation of this guy on DailyZoo. Happy New Year! http://daily.zooniverse.org/2014/12/31/golden-eagle-photo-shoot/
Appears to be a red tailed hawk but the perspective is so odd, making the raptor look small, or the poppies ginormous!
Congrats 310 (and 219). Your chick (745) is doing well. Keep up the good work! http://goo.gl/Bq58jS
http://www.condorwatch.org/#/condors/401. very odd that you wouldn't get a bio 😦 I'm guessing an accidental mis-entry of something.
and he knows it
Yes, definitely a golden eagle 😃
Water tanks for firefighting. News stories here: http://goo.gl/sBWZSt, http://goo.gl/LqGoAN &more info w/photo here: http://goo.gl/vBK7JU
Angry birds
most gruesome photo yet of TDHC
Hoo-hoo is it? My birdguy says it's another Saw-whet.Makes sense given photo shortly before that's clearly a SAWH: http://goo.gl/WvPi9M
let me ask around
Can't find a lot of fetching photos of this gal (487, wings spread above) but check out her story: http://goo.gl/avOXCn
The tree walker! Haha, good one. You're just hallucinating because of the heat (123 deg F/51 C)
live rabbit actually
Part of the frustrating faded blue series. It's blue75, or bird 375. Since there's no white75, we will be able to correct the data
I'm going to go with Say's phoebe again: http://goo.gl/PJGIew. Must be good flycatching around those carcasses. http://goo.gl/1poAUg
Couldn't resist. Was gonna post here and let you know but hadn't had a chance yet. 😃
I had to look it up too! Thanks for supplementing my vocabulary
&my fav in this series: http://goo.gl/dL6gfp, where, in my imagining, it flies off after a scuffle & the condors say WTH was that all about?
Approaching the carcass moments before: http://goo.gl/WzxdCS. And here, I think it has snuck in on the far right: http://goo.gl/5FUEfo.
One help in making the eagle call was digging around and finding other photos.....
Even one condor can be a force to reckon with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYRYc30XUgk (thanks to wreness for this video link)
Indeed an unusual situation, the GOEA as an outsider, but we can see it choosing to wait for safer access to the carcass given the mob.
Our team has been studying this photo &we're pretty sure it's an eagle based on feathered head, gold nape, beak, &those legs. More in next..
Interesting backstory on Orange98 here: http://goo.gl/ydz36Z
White80 should yield a bio (it's 480). I see you had the same problem with Yellow39. Weird. Is anyone else getting no bio for cleartags now?
Cool bird! Think it's an immature golden.They have white tail base w/ dark tip like this one. Check photos etc here: http://goo.gl/wchXAA
This appears to be the day of release for 2-year-old 606 (black6 1dot). A bold bird.
Well now we learn 156's trendy fashions have not impressed the single males: http://goo.gl/V3VwWI
This image almost screams "caption me!" Suggestions?
Finally the adults have had their fill and the carcass turns into the kids table
#scale 20?
Yes, but the recently-posted cologne ad photo was also at twilight (on second thought, of course it was)
And if she thought the flying monkeys were creepy, she's definitely landed in the wrong spot
This photo made the Thanksgiving day Dailyzoo. http://daily.zooniverse.org/
Just featured this guy on Facebook for our Saturday selfie. We are at 470 likes over there, with lots of recent interest. Welcome new CWers!
I actually think it's the "butt-end" of a coyote (using wreness's technical term). I see a leg bottom left, and the dark tail spot in ctr.
I actually think it's the front end of said beast. I see a snout and ears, don't I?
See the responses I got here: http://goo.gl/3qHuzK
we really do need a "like" button 😃
Right! It would make more sense to just report the year the individual initiated breeding
So if a condor 1st parented an egg in yr X, its start of breeding is Dec 31, X-1.Not sure why site does it that way, but seems reasonable.
We don't know exact start day of breeding activities(eg courting, etc), but reported laying dates for wild CA eggs range from Jan-Apr
Okay ya'll, I've sent out queries to the folks who provision these, asking what could be wrong with this absolutely delicious looking horse
I have heard the condors have definite preferences and dead calf is just sameold sameold, while dead deer is a treat
Esp in light of this article http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/vultures-use-acid-nasty-bacteria-to-digest-rotting-flesh-1.2849921.
At this angle, I don't recognize the mug. Some of the field biologists watch our Facebook page, so I'll post & see if anyone will claim it.
okay, yes, positive.
Really, you got it twice? That's not supposed to happen.
Speaking of blue necks, check out Topa Topa's spectacular neck on our Facebook page: http://goo.gl/7Q7BgF
cool&punkazz&fun when present in 1s & 2s & 3s, but wouldn't want them to get wind of the "RavenCam" label. U know they'd feel so entitled!
Great condor--turkey vulture comparison photo.
Ah, yes, it's 307, with the best seat in the house. A known tag now, but omitted from our records initially and thus not in Zoo database.
Puhleese don't call it a raven cam. We really don't want to give those guys any more encouragement to do full flock photobombs, do we?! 😃
Looks like a raven with its head highlighted by the sun. Note its size relative to the other raven, and the big heavy raven bill
I agree. Head shape indicates turkey vulture. I also think I can see the white bill
Yes, I agree Canmore. Blurry image, but size is coyote
There's actually a Ton -- this guy was posing for a long time. I'll post in minimovie section: http://goo.gl/1txmc2
#pig
Also got confirmation of Say's Phoebe on this one.
Quite the opposite. I just got confirmation from my birding expert on this one. It's a Great Horned Owl ("horns" down).
actually quite the string of them:
http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0000c1v , http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0000c2h
Looks like a Say's phoebe hunting insects
Great! Once you see the eyes, it seems obvious but it was a real illusion to me for awhile.
But was able to confirm by looking at the the next photo: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0000mt7
It's 96! Thought it had to be based on limited # of blues (blue tags listed here: http://blog.condorwatch.org/gallery-of-wing-tags/).
345, age 3, trying hard to look majestic -- not easy in that awkward pubescent stage.
Stunning. Golden Eagle (Aquila chrysaetos)
That's a good one! Condor watcher, what say you all??
I'd say 19Black 2 dots. 1 seems to run into dot below it. It's 219, male, hatched 2000, still alive, now wears Yellow19. Dusty camera lens?
Yes! If 2 users click "all marked" or only carcass, it's done. May even lower to 1 for some cases
Okay, I give up. Owl does not work well in this comment box. But isn't this condor adorable?
"The tag system never ceases to amaze". wreness, you are a diplomat-you win an owl
,_ _ _,
(6 v 6)
( __ ^ __ ) \
I'm sure there must be a better descriptor for that part of the 1. Little hats?
538 almost 4 yrs old, and smack in the middle of that awkward stage
A few birders suggested this looks like a Roadrunner based on size/headshape/color/bill. Long tail is pointing directly at camera. BeepBeep
It's Black18 (518).They tend to put very stout serifs on the 1s. Also, zoom in on white tag -it's 87 (487). Note different shape of the 7
I wonder if someone furry or feathered was breathing on the camera?
Great photo for seeing the size difference!
Good find - it's 665 & his tag was left blank (don't know why-- it's the only tag like this!).Pls enter the word: "blank" next time for tag#
I think it might be White51 -- and look what happens next: http://goo.gl/wbCDKo Emphatic Tibetan body language for something - discuss
This from one of the field bios: "We used a really light blue tag with black lettering at 1 pt for 300 series birds...
...but they ended up fading quickly making it hard to tell the difference between white & blue...case in point here!"
Looking at a bunch of tags can help hone your color search image too 😃: http://blog.condorwatch.org/gallery-of-wing-tags/
Except for that horse. You know the one.
Thanks for finding several mystery tags. I know you find them b/c you do a lot of photos! But this 1 looks like 11underl, or411, hatch in 06
Hey, this photo made DailyZoo! http://daily.zooniverse.org/2014/11/06/condor-coyote/
Think you're right. There is a Black6 1dot. It's 606, hatched 4/2011 @the LAZoo & just released 1/29/2013. The wild world is very new to him
So, to be clear, best way to retire photos is to press "all animals marked" button, or "carcass" & then "all animals marked". Easy, right?
Sorry for the confusion. We've been trying to convey this repeatedly on photos, but object comments are an awkward way to disseminate info
To clarify, photos are retired when 2 users classify them as having no animals (w/ or w/o carcass). Unfort, we can't retire based on hashtag
stunning
It seems so undignified...until you look where the head of the one feeding is...
Best to press "all animals marked" & go to next. Photo retirement is automated--only a few (2-3) need to record as blank & it's retired! 😃
Surprised no one has commented on the whitewash on the back of condor front left. Looks like it's the topic of convo among the birds here
I'd say that's white63 (463). The darn antenna makes the 3 look like an 8, but zoom in&you can see it's a 3. Don't you love the coastal fog!
love this
definitely the rubber chicken 😃
Yes! I've never seen this one. Great! And glad to know the system handled the input and gave you the right ID
I'm afraid we have no way to manually retire. Fortunately they're quick to do and only a few need to deem them blank before they're reitred.
I second the red7. I might be looking at the wrong tag.
For photos w/condors, many people view the same photo to ensure good consensus data. Blank photos only get viewed by a few then are retired.
Yes, right on! Western meadowlark, state bird of 6 western states, including my own.
In theory then this photo should not appear again
Saw Amy Cuddy's TED talk &now does 2 min of "power posing" in rare moments when buddies are gone. Helps him cop an attitude with the condors
Very cool. The first report of this behavior here on CW.
You? Identify with the mouthy one? I would never have guessed! 😃
Wish I could go back in time with my sharpie & fix this tag. It's 11 3dots.Fortunately, there's no 77 3dots, so can correct the data posthoc
Or maybe the adult is saying, "move it twerp, that's my seat", and the juvie is saying "as a matter of fact, I was just leaving" 😃
Young and old face off
Rob Simpson, howz about an animated #DailyZoo gif using this & http://goo.gl/cb8BdX, like the zebras (http://goo.gl/nzxNbh), only better 😃
448 found something stringy yummy and everyone is jealous
Gosh, this is a great shot too! #Dailyzoo
332 hatched Apr2004. 317,306, and 310 hatched May2003. Looks like some of them are just starting to mature (teens as you say EB).
Great shot! So cooperative - thanks for standing perpendicular to the cam--could you teach your friends that trick? #Dailyzoo
What do you think of my Halloween batman costume?
Makes sense. 493 was born in 2008 so she would have been 2 years old here, which is the right age to be a gray/black faced juvenile
Sorry folks -- my internet went a little haywire for a minute there but I think I rectified the situation.
Bueller? ... Bueller? ... Bueller? 😃
Blue65 is a reasonable guess.-- I don't have a better one
Not sure why you wouldn't have gotten a bio tho. Are you sure you weren't so excited you accidentally missed the Bio button? 😃
Yes!!!! And you know what you get, don't you? Wait for it..... Here it is: >]]]]">
leave it wreness to find trendy 156's most obscure tag: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0003pd9
Hey, they say they will make this change today. Let us know if you see "still carrion on" in the bios 😃.
But poor 560 has been black60 her whole life. 4 stinkin' years of fashion monotony. Not even a dot or underline to jazz things up
Ha! But some do get to sport the latest trendy color.156 had green1dot in 08, black1dot in 09, red in 10, orange in 11, &red since.No joke
One brave raven does the math - what's 1/2 way between an eagle and a condor?
spooky eyes
Love it. I will ask too -- I might have more luck, but no guarantees.
Hmm-2 diff field sites concluded it's a "weird angle" & is 38 (ie 438) & dot is lower left part of 3. 438 was here then http://goo.gl/c7wjNp
white 38 is 438
My guess is that after the camera fell, grass waving above the lens triggered 100s of photos. I've had that happen with my trailcams
Comment on it again next time so we can compare the date/time.
the latter....
Okay, table sent. Next time you encounter 125, the Bio should reflect that he died in 2014 -- of bobcat predation.
Sad to report 125 died this summer. Writeup on our blog: http://goo.gl/6y5B8. Will send updated BioTable to Zoo with recent deaths.
Zoo has drastically reduced # classifications of "empties" needed to retire to 3. Appears to have had effect of cycling more of them thru
Nice
I see what you mean. I'm on it.
Quite the cluster of pink heads.
Also asking for input on CW FB page here: http://goo.gl/1esWe9
YES indeed. Nice!
And we can see how quickly it faded because 374 is Domino here, just 4 months earlier: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0002ipv
But isn't it encouraging that we come up with the same answer each time the question is asked 😃?!
Didn't understand your math until I zoomed in. Brilliant!
We used light blue w/black #s at 1pt for 300series birds but they faded, making it hard to distinguish betw white&blue-case in pt here!
From field crew:Pretty sure it's 374 (continued in next)
We've now found several birds pink @age 4.5 (many of these earlybirds found by miltonbosch). Like humans there's variation in maturation age
Looking again at the photo I linked to below, noticed I'd matched wrong head to body. Head of 5underline was indeed fully pink here too.
Agree, unless something very dramatic happened overnight: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW00059hj Another investigation....
Could be Yellow but we have no record of 74 with either White or Yellow. Investigating...
Yes, this is 306. We've learned of several tags now that were omitted from our records.Big thanks to our super-observant &meticulous CWers
That's actually a condor on the carcass. A bear would be much bigger. You can see the tag and transmitter antenna. Only condors have these.
I see what you mean -- the positioning makes the little calf look like she could just be sleeping...uh, except for the eagle standing on her
not 71. investigating....
#scale ~20 pounds 317
bright red heads
Same bodies, next day
These yellow tags can look white in bright sun. It's 236 or Yell36. Don't worry, we'll correct it as there is no white36 (as you discovered)
This is one of the sites we have info on carcass placements, and it appears 4 rabbits & a calf were put out the day before this photo
#dailyzoo "an eagle watching a coyote watching a perfect circle of ravens"
Take a closer look -- that is a condor.
One of the ways that they cool themselves is by defecating on their feet. Gotta love these birds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urohidrosis
It is a scale in view of the camera. It's designed with a perchbar to take advantage of their desire to perch near the carcass. It works!
This could be a page out of a children's picture book!
Just love it that you have favorites. Assume you mean 534,543,547? Clear why you like them--they stand perpendicular to camera. Good birds!
#scale 20.5 pounds
Indeed! Hijacking your wing to ask anyone experiencing(or not) a website slowdown to provide more info here: http://goo.gl/DYR5rp Thanks!
Again, a very tough angle. My expert tag reader says it's 75
Investigating
that wingspan again--so impressive
#dailyzoo
My point exactly. I mean really, who do they think they are? So inconsiderate!
I think the right digit must be obscured. White tags are almost all 400 series birds, which fits this guy's age, so choices are 70,77,78.
I agree it looks like 17! The only plausible alternative is 77. I emailed a Pinnacles biologist who concurred it was 77.Tough angle
fabulous!
Blue65, w/companion White82, recently took an exciting foray into the high Sierra. See map here: http://goo.gl/toDioW
Great little video clip of Red11 carrying on after the death of her mate and feeding her now enormous chick: http://goo.gl/os9Juk
Raven(black color/bill shape/body size rel. to scale).See: http://www.condorwatch.org/#/field-guide &raven photos here: http://goo.gl/a6ABaa
Great observation. We are working on a blog post about coloration in condors and will mention bluish necks 😃
Check with field staff -- they say it's 77. Tough angle.
so, the condor equivalent of the pimple phase. you nailed it wreness
Rept from a condor field biologist:sub-adult, ~4 yrs old, which is why pink on neck&face but still dark freckling from when it was a juvie.
Agree--looks like 17.Our tag records show the only whiteX7 is 77 (477, born 08) but I'll ask the release site if we're missing something
As a matter of fact, I was just leaving
Well now there's a good point. I'm afraid I'm going to have post this comment/photo on Facebook. Too funny.
She died of powerline electrocution, but had toxic liver lead levels at the time
A few w/underlined0s were omitted from the tag database (eg307 here http://goo.gl/uhpYly). We'll confirm but agree it's 306, died 6/9/2013
Is the raven on the scale?
Yes, pouting! I can see that too. Condor doesn't care
#scale If I were wreness I'd have a good thought bubble to match this guy's expression
And here's how it fast it can get to this point. Check out this video of condors obliterating a full carcass in 3 hours http://goo.gl/0Kl5M3
Just mark the main concentration of carcass material. Thanks!!
love it!
Btw,wreness's great collages of butts&more (http://goo.gl/UIS5gx) recently highlighted on the DailyZoo http://daily.zooniverse.org/ (Aug 26)
I agree-definitely purple. Check out color examples in the Gallery of Wingtags @CW Blog: http://blog.condorwatch.org/gallery-of-wing-tags/
I think you mean this one wreness 😃: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0000ps9
Doubt they're going after meat. Just thinking they could trigger the cam, resulting in lots of shots of nada, as is so often seen @this site
see end of unknown bio board for more on these tag issues
At least it's quick to process. The many soil mounds make me think sm mammals(gophers/grnd squirrels) are repeatedly triggering the cam here
Checking in with the field biologists on these, esp. the orange tag. The 74 might be light blue..
43underline is 543. She was released 10/12/2010 so pretty new at everything and likely bottom of pecking order
Another tough tag. My guess is Blue70, which is 370. She was hatched in 05 and only has a right tag
Very tough tags, I agree! I think the blue one must be 96, and the 16 looks yellow.
Looks like 93 to me. White93 is 493,female hatched in the wild in 08. Still alive
will do
Did you click black or blue? It's black--the blue w/white #s is a royal blue. Here's a photo w/ examples of both blues: http://goo.gl/63jDr3
Let's wish Red11 (111) well. She's rearing a chick & her long-time mate (Red25, aka 125) has died. See his "obit" here: http://goo.gl/BQU0F0
It's white48 (bird448). I know because for all white & blue tags there's no 4, just 44&48, & only 48 has a left tag. & it looks white 😃
Yes, black85. Bird 585, a male hatched 5/2010 and released 12/2011
You are hilarious. I'm sorry -- I have to post this to Facebook. Great humor to start the weekend.
And the top bird apparently just gave the "Beaks Open" order
You may have found a problem in our tag database.Thx! We don't have records of Black07underline. I'll check w/field sites. Guessing it's 307
someone is waiting at a very safe distance for their turn
Nice. And ~10% of the free-flying (non zoo) population.
#pig
Just ran across this closeup of Dolly the condor showing similar feather patterning: http://goo.gl/aTaObv
Face shot of what appears to be the same spp 3 months later @same time of day: http://goo.gl/jCCXfo. Consensus ID then was no. saw-whet owl
yes coyote!
An unkindness of ravens. Perfect, huh?
coyote in the fog
perhaps some ace tag readers will have a better guess, but looks like the transmitter antenna is creating a shadow, and that tag is 1 or 11
funny how often it really looks like they're doing just that
#scale
Some tags have underlines or dots under the numbers (& they need to be recorded to get right bio). Below 32 here is 3 dots, indicating #332
Yes, good call on the departing juvenile golden. Here's a good key (at least for the underside view):
http://goo.gl/nFRupA
I can't tell you how excited I was to get this photo as I was classifying.
Think miltonbosch is correct-there's a pattern on the tag. When I enlarge, I see an underline. Bad angle but suspect it's 47underline=547
Sun may be lightening up feathers, but head shape &beak &head color indicate turkey vultures. Look a lot like last TUVU photo in field guide
#dailyzoo
wreness, I do believe this is your coyote! What do you think?
599 and her unusual birth are featured in this film: http://www.thecondorsshadow.com/featuring.html
Very observant!! Interesting case.
The egg was laid in wild, then taken to LA Zoo. Day after hatching in zoo it was fostered into a wild nest by placing it back in its shell
I got a Bio for 401! Unfortunately for the Black01Underline tag, not the problematic White1 yet. But still, it's a Bio
That was my coyote voice
Undoubtedly the thought process wreness
Interesting photo because those are turkey vultures (TVs or TUVUs) on the right
A close up of the perch. It helps the condors stand on the scale
That is a wood perch attached to the scale. You will notice it in every photo that has a scale 😃
If not carcass is visible, and none is implied (eg no group crowded around a focal spot), click no carcass present. thanks!
From the release site: "looks like someone discovered ‘ol domino.' The dot was 374’s temporary tag." Great nickname! I'll update our records
and now he's gone.
For a limited time only, see 351 all grown up &handsome, upclose & live here (now wearing Black51_3dots): http://ventanaws.org/condor_cam/
I'm sorry I missed this!! Pls harass us if we don't answer! I've heard abt this tag but don't have it in our records. I know who to ask tho.
Cause of death was "under investigation" but now listed as trauma: blunt force collision/vehicle impact. Inotherwords, hit by a car 😦
#dailyzoo
Great image. I feel like I'm seated at the same table as the rest of these juveniles (on second thought, no thanks...)
Just got an "ah hah" from Zooniverse!! They think they've figured out the White1 problem. Pls tell us if you get a bio (hopefully401) 😃
Juveniles waiting for lunch. Beautiful condors all.
Hey, why are you guys leaving?
Whoops, ElisabethB and I were typing at the same time. It's blurry but the head color suggests condor to me. Other thoughts?
That's a condor. Do you see its yellow beak/head and red eye near the carcass?
The eagle looks annoyed by all the company
been there
Hey, just noticed we got a CW coyote on the daily zoo today: http://daily.zooniverse.org/
I'm calling white99 (=499, female, hatched 3/2009) on that one. Do you buy it?
#dailyzoo
Yes, sadly this one persists. I reported it (again) 2 days ago when I encountered it myself.
I might be confused, but I think it's been ok, except once appeared a bit white in a photo (http://goo.gl/1WJesa) Or no??
Lovely
Thanks inaspin!. It's 365. See response in "Unknown" discussion board.
Love the couple at the scale. White1 is still a deadend bio (argh, not there yet miltonbosch 😦). I've contacted Zooniverse...
This is where I guess I should admit I learn about popular culture mostly by reading the newspaper and listening to radio interviews..
Tell me someone else got the Don Draper reference? And when I referred to the biting condor as the Luis Saurez of condors, anyone? 😄
Lead character on Mad Men. He took on a new identity and has no past (ie no Bio).
Poor 401. Right now he's one of the Don Drapers of Condor Watch
Unfortunately, it takes awhile for Zoon.to implement changes. Can't wait to see you proclaim "White1 FINALLY fixed!!" It's coming mb.
I would say this is Yellow39, which is, as you say 239. The white tags are more the color of the calf legs 😃
Fun fact "the tapetum lucidum of wild pigs are not reflective like other animals making spotlight sightings..difficult" http://goo.gl/ukdCrz
I agree with coyote.
looking a bit shut out from the action too
See my response to this on the unknown ID board 😃
This should be fixed now. This is 307 -- died in 2007 from a rattlesnake bite
And wreness somehow I felt sure you'd refer this question to ElisabethB 😄
I sorry-this was an old gremlin, but it should no longer be possible for the lookup code to =278 for Wh78. I'll shake the trees again.
Not going to weigh in now but for fun put it out to the masses on Facebook: http://goo.gl/TydcaO (but of course feel free to comment here)
I agree.
What ElisabethB said
I'll post on CW Facebook too and let that crowd weigh in
I think you mean the one to the left behind the pole. I agree, almost certainly a condor.
Our moderators are hilarious. Not everyone can do carcass humor.
It's okay to go with your best/educated guess. Something else is really for things like bear, pig, mountain lion, etc. Thanks for your help!
Beautiful fellow
Yes, weird looking blob! I think it's a raven highlighted by the sun.
Hmm, hard to see what that is, but it looks inanimate to me.
If there's a condor on the scale & you can see the weight, pls tag photo w/ #scale. "Something else" is intended for marking animals. Thx!
Those appear to be condors
Yes, those are golden eagles! Maybe they were named golden because"brown eagles" doesn't sound grand and fitting for such magnificent birds
Love this expression!
I believe that is bolt and carabiner that they attach the chain to when securing the carcass
The only blue tags starting with 1X are 11 and 18, so that one is likely 18
Rare sighting of a wrinkle in the space-time continuum
I've emailed Zooniverse on this...
Based on tail length and general body shape, I'm going to say young coyote (coyotes also have big ears). But I will ask a canid biologist
Also helpful - red foxes have black legs & usu a white tail tip. AFAIK, we haven't actually had a fox (red, gray, kit) at the cameras yet.
Those are coyotes. They are always fun to see!
I suspect it's 449. It's just turning pink (see darker head pinker neck). More on the inaccurate bio board in response to your question.
It's Luis Suarez of the condor world!!
A4 is a ridiculously confusing tag. Here's extra helpful info. A4 tag appeared only in 2010. Black44 only in early 2012.
Mamaganoush: has that continued to happen, or just this one photo? Hopefully the latter!
Ravens waiting for their turn at the primo carcass
I think it's 452 (hatched 07, released 08), but 452 is supposed to have 4 dots. I agree it looks like an underline....
Not sure which insult he'd prefer.The TV is enjoying this commentary tho, I'm sure.
Yeah, that head is disturbing. We have detailed feeding data for this site, and yes, 4 rabbits & 2 calves recently placed here
ruckus at the carcass (okay, I admit it, that's not quite as good as Rumble in the jungle or Thrilla in Manilla)
I agree - looks like a juvenile condor (thus the big beak).
I think that's what the juvenile in the back is thinking too
Yes, def looks like Black42 w/2dots when I enlarge. That's 242, male, born 2001 at San Diego WildAnimalPark, released 2002. No chicks yet...
Yes! Wish we could pan the camera.
We asked 4 this change, but Zoon wasn't able to implement. On the bright side, they removed distance to carcass for ravens.Thankyou4yourhrs!
This angle makes 401's head look small
I don't see it. Is it camouflaged?
I'm not sure we can get a clear read of this tag unfortunately
cont: when they're too annoying or in condor personal space, condors may defensively snap/hiss like is about to occur in this picture.
Accd to a field bio: a mild altercation. Ravens can't really hurt condors, but will sometimes annoy them-perhaps a "little bird complex." 😃
Or rather should be 307. Are you saying you entered Black07 and the website said no bio?
Odd. I'll report to Zooniverse. Thx
Yes, that's the antenna on its transmitter, which is attached to its wing tag.
The coyotes are not taking any chances with an eagle here: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/subjects/ACW0000lrr
it does!
Looks like a group of 3 coyotes
I see 2 ravens center left and 1 raven center right. I might be looking in the wrong place?
Another winner miltonbosch! Confusing because at quick glance it looks like an adult, but that pink head is associated with different bird
I put this one on Facebook http://goo.gl/wxcP2C
GREAT action shot. And I agree -- looks like a golden eagle defending the carcass from 2 coyotes.
Sadly 318 died shortly after this photo. Forensics rept showed he ingested a .22 caliber lead bullet
Now added to the wing tag gallery with kudos to miltonbosch. Fame and fortune are sure to follow!
I agree. The V1 tag has an underline & appeared in 2008, 2009 and the 1st part of 2010. Don't think we've seen it yet, but would love to.
Good find! It's actually Blue 65. I tracked back thru old records and discovered it had been omitted from the Wingtag Gallery. I added it.
The choices for underlined tags ending in 7 are -7 and 47 (Yes, there are a few tags with "-" for the first digit.)
I see a second career as a behavioral ecologist for you wreness!
Oh, I've been following your meticulous documentation of the OEC in night photos 😃, but wondered how you knew which one was him/her here?
Did the site give the wrong ID or a unknown? Thanks!
Don't worry abt misentries or not all of tag visible, etc. We'll resolve those issues in the consensus analysis (with input from many users)
Thanks SP - We really only want reports of misIDs for clearly readable tags so we can troubleshoot website Bio problems.
Okay, I have to ask. How can you tell it's your one-eyed coyote? I feel dumb
Agree with all you've said here wreness, but funny, just 2 hrs after this there was a cool broad-daylight bear photo posted (diff. site) 😃
Maybe they have bets about who can choke down the most, and are very scientific in determining who wins
Funny how many of these scale photos come out looking as if there is great interest in the weigh in.
wow - first day time bear I've seen!
Answered here: http://talk.condorwatch.org/#/boards/BCW0000005/discussions/DCW00001pu?page=1&comment_id=538b48c1241fe17bc500000b
It's 294, which in 06&07 had a white tag. More recently it's had black or yellow tags. This is a known issue awaiting a site fix.Thx & sorry
Thanks! 412 should have 4 dots. This is 512. Will report it.
Good thinking, but remember the tag systems change thru time. 340 wore Black40 in 06 & 07, then in 08 got Black 40 3dots. So this ID is OK
Nice!
Good instincts. Some of the 1's can look a lot like 7's. This is 67 (there is no black61, only blue and red)
I would record that tag as X9 white. I think the left side of the tag is obscured
Thanks for your repts, but we only need the photo talk url if you report them somewhere other than the photo talk (eg discuss board)
Think you're saying you misentered Bl 47under, as Bl17under, yes? Other tag does not seem clear enough to read (but can't be wh8)
All the purples are 600 series, but not vice versa. Some 600s have black tags, and one bird, 665, has a blank yellow tag!
Thanks. It's 460. Sigh...
Yes, that's yellow
Nice observation!
Would only be fun if you could control it.
??? No veo cóndores. Sólo águila y cuervos.
Fun fact from the field guide: adult condors can...change their skin color from pale grey blue to bright red to deep yellows to communicate
2!
I had to email one of the field biologists for clarification. This is Red11. 1's are funky, huh? I'll put example photos in WingTag Gallery
I can only clearly see 5underline. There is no 5onedot, so I don't think that's right for that tag. Still, should never get 2bios. Reporting
Thanks. I'll report it.
Did you remember to indicate the underline? ie, did you enter Black34underline? Thanks for clarifying
Tough one, but I would say turkey vulture (TUVU) based on head shape and size
Don't see an orange tag, but might not be looking in the right spot. I see a red tag in back right. Remember orange tags have black letters
Great answer wreness
Yes Bl75. Remember you super volunteers can check the list of blue tags here: http://blog.condorwatch.org/gallery-of-wing-tags/
512-- not sure why the site said 412. 512 died 1/9/13 from golden eagle predation. Clarifies why condors stand back from eagles at carcasses
It sure looks blue but there is no blue 18 so I think it must be black.
Yes, that's yellow
Yes, great contrast in size!
Beautiful!
We do too We have requested this modification to the website.
Are you actually getting an ID when you enter 9? Or are you getting unknown? Thanks for clarifying
Interesting. The white 7X series birds were born in 08, so this is a young bird. Looks like W77, or 477.
BTW, 405 is the only central CA bird with just a 5 on the tag. It has had an underlined and a nonunderlined tag
Hmm, I don't feel confident that we can see enough of that tag to be sure it is a single digit 5.
Actually, there is no white 9, and it looks like the tag is curled a bit and there's another digit we can't read. Maybe 94.
I'm sorry. We're just waiting for Zooniverse to fix this. I have no idea why unknown IDs are being reported. By my lookup table it's 599
Let's not mark this type so we can focus on the true misIDs. Thanks!!! 😃
So, it's not really a missID if only part of the tag is reported. There's more than one White?7 and Black?4 tags so we have no way of IDing
Check our FB page for a longer commentary:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Condor-Watch/213592792168601
Definitely black (it's 568). Did you enter black or blue?
Looking into it.
The sun can washout the Yellow tags but note the tinge of Yellow on 16. The rest of the full numbers should have IDs tho.
That appears to be Black47underline
That looks like Yellow6. But Black13 should have bio. Thank you.
Thanks!
I agree - very photogenic!
Thanks-Y62 should have bio! 16 tag is actually Yellow. Check GalleryofWingTags for color examples. http://goo.gl/HGNpF7 I'll add this one.
Did you enter it as Black90? If so, it should have a bio.
That's actually Black. Check out our new Gallery of Wing Tags for some examples of Blues: http://blog.condorwatch.org/gallery-of-wing-tags/
turkey vulture in background off to the right
OK, got me. Was trying to protect the condors' reputations, but bet they're discussing a plan to drop rocks on the ravens as they fly off
Thank you. Will try to sort that out. Btw, it's 351, male, hatched in 2004, released in 2005
They have probably eaten their fill 😃
My guess is that Y16, or 216. Hard to tell though.
Scrutinized this in my photo editor & checked list based on transmitter locn, year, etc. Best guess is 52 for bird on R. But not definitive!
White. Odd exposure maybe due to sun angle -- tag looks outlined in blue (it's not) & tag itself looks orangish. I'll add to examples.
This is blue. I'm adding it to my gallery of example wing tag colors, which we will post on the blog this weekend.
This is black. I'm adding it to my gallery of example wing tag colors. Most dotted wing tags are black
I would say that is White 0, which is bird 400. She unfortunately just died this month at age 8
That's purple4 (#604). Other is black. Can't tell if it's 9 or 9X. In the end, another photo close in time will give us data on that bird.
As did I at first! At this angle, it's almost impossible to see it as an A. Fortunately, this bird didn't wear that funky tag very long.
Yes, that's yellow. We plan on posting some example tag photos soon to help out.
Sorry, that is a black tag. Blue tags are light blue. Will post more tag examples in the next few days.
Orange79 is 79, oldest wild female, born in 1992. She is highlighted in our most recent Facebook post
That is actually orange. A quick way to distinguish is that the red tags have white letters and the orange have black letters.
Took awhile to sort out! Tag =A4, which is 514, hatched 2009. 1 of only 3 with a letter on tag for part of a year. Will add info to guide
That's right, we are gathering data from many years of photos. 351 was a juvie in 2006, when the photo was taken
unfortunately, time is sometimes off on the cameras, but date is correct, and relative time is correct for a sequence of photos.
Black34under is 543. Is that what you meant? We are working on the bio to tag assignments. A series of little glitched that WILL be fixed
I apologize for the frustration it's causing.
Tough one. I too thought this was Y63, but that's impossible so I enlarged & scrutinized. It's Y62 with a shadow making the 2 look like a 3
Agree!
Good Q. But no, s/he is just stuffed. It would be more unusual for a condor to be alone on the ground w/o others around for an extended time
Interesting view. I think it might be the way the wind is blowing the guard hairs.
Hmm, I see 32 with 3 dots. Am I looking at the wrong bird?
...raven's will sometimes mess with predators by pulling tails/tail feathers while they eat, but this is unusual....
Great observation. This is what a field biologist said about this: Hahaha!!! That is NOT normal....
It looks like a juvenile condor that just doesn't quite get what's going on 😃"
Yes, the tagging system is complicated and has differed thru time and from site to site. but the 3 dots +32 indicates this is bird 332
Hard to read tag. I think it's white 81, which is 481, female born in 2008
Odd. 43 bl underline, 78 white, and 11 white should all give you bios. As wreness says, post if you enter clear info and get unknown
And another chick this year -- see the Condor watch Facebook page
That's right. 6 yellow is 206! See the bottom of the field guide for more on the tags.
Yes, I'd say that black91, 591, male, born 2011, still alive!
use hashtag #wrongid
If possible. Trying to sort out why this is happening. Would help if you could report tag # and what ID the website assigned it. Thanks!
Just means last 2 digits are 0x. This is 405, born in 2006. The 100s digit indicates approximate age. They are now assigning tags in 700s
Good observation! 111, the most prolific of all the wild females in CA
Thanks!!
Were you told one of these was 402? Do you know which one. We are really trying to sort this out. Thanks for clarifying.
Darn. They just implemented a fix a few hrs ago that I thought would resolve this. Do you remember what condor the site said this was?
MisIDs happening because this is SoCal and the website is assigning Ctrl CA IDs. We're waiting impatiently for a tech fix on this issue.
Love this photo
I see 3!
So sorry - this is 563, born in 2010. Tech staff are fixing a few bugs in the connection between tags and bios. The photo is great!
Yes, looks like a gray fox to me based on black line on tail and size. Nice!
Yes, a wild pig!
Bobcat! Awesome!
Have you completed the image? The system doesn't let you skip photos so it keeps going back to the one you are working on. Hope that's it.
...Condors might spend hours or an entire day feeding, interacting, and loafing at a carcass."
...While waiting their turn to feed, or after feeding, young condors will often lay on the ground to rest and interact with one another....
From the field biolotists:: "Condors are very social and it is typical to see a large number of condors feeding on a carcass together....
These are all condors. It would be unusual to see a turkey vulture in the midst of feeding condors. And they would be clearly smaller
But no worries, each photo is analyzed by multiple people!
Those are juvenile condors. You can barely make out a yellow tag on the center left bird, but the tags on the others are hidden from view.
This is 512 who died Jan 2013. Seems to be an occasional glitch linking tags to IDs. The tech staff are working on. Sorry for the confusion!
These are deceased dairy calves. The carcasses are chained at condor feeding stations so condors and other scavengers don't drag them off
Indeed 318 died Nov 2012, but he was alive in June 2011 when this photo was taken.
One of the older birds out there, though not very old for a condor. Keep an eye out for #21--born in 1980 and the oldest of the bunch
She's their girl
I see blue, black, and red tags. But you're right, the blue of the tags is lighter than the blue on the check box. We'll try to adjust that!
The latter!
I think you're right
Thank you 340! How did you know I was looking for some tag examples with dots to add to the field guide? #helpfulcondor
#mugshot
That's a young condor! Less than a year old.
Yes, 2 golden eagles!